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QBREES9 03-09-2013 10:46 PM

Re: Saints Agree To Terms With LB Junior Galette On Three-Year Contract
 
Good Move !

hagan714 03-10-2013 05:12 AM

Re: Saints Agree To Terms With LB Junior Galette On Three-Year Contract
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 484717)
He tweeted it was 12 million, 3 years, 12 million?

Thats more than I was thinking it would be.

:no: You gotta be kidding me.
I could have spent the money much wiser. :brood:

4 mill a year for a player that could not break into the starters roll? :mad:

this has to be a mistake. :confused:

if it is not it still is. :pissed:

just when Micky was looking so good. tisk tisk.:nono:


You could have held onto Jr and probably could have added Victor Butler for the same hunk of cheese :censored: or any other 2nd tier vet out there in FA.:bang:

i will wait :bugeyes: for some thing besides a tweet and pray the details are better than this :ohno:

FinSaint 03-10-2013 06:16 AM

Re: Saints Agree To Terms With LB Junior Galette On Three-Year Contract
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 484738)
i will wait :bugeyes: for some thing besides a tweet and pray the details are better than this :ohno:


Hopefully Galette's tweet isn't reliable - they often aren't - so maybe it'll be 3-years/$4M total, which would seem much more accurate given that he hasn't really done anything to warrant a $4M/year contract.

Maybe a period mistake $12M -> $1.2M/year?



From the NOLA article on the topic:


Quote:

With just three years of experience, Galette was a restricted free agent, meaning the Saints would have had the right to match any offer Galette received on the open market as long as the Saints tendered him a one-year offer.

The Saints apparently were prepared to make Galette a second-round tender offer of $2.023 million before the three-year deal was announced.

If that's true, then the $4M/per year contract would seem all the more unlikely given that it's double what they were prepared to tender him with.

jlouhill 03-10-2013 07:23 AM

Re: Saints Agree To Terms With LB Junior Galette On Three-Year Contract
 
I'm with fin on this. I too think a period was missing in the tweet.

Danno 03-10-2013 09:48 AM

Re: Saints Agree To Terms With LB Junior Galette On Three-Year Contract
 
It could also be very back-loaded. 2-4-6 million, if incentives are met.

TheOak 03-12-2013 08:24 AM

Re: Saints Agree To Terms With LB Junior Galette On Three-Year Contract
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 484685)
That would probably cut it... pardon the pun. ;-)

Cutting Smith would cost $6.8M prorated over 2013 and 2014.

Cutting Vilma would cost $2.6M prorated for 2013.

Cutting Harper would cost $3.5M prorated over 2013 and 2014.


So, there are savings to be made there, especially when considering Smith's cap hits.

That assumption is incorrect.

Dead Money - Prorated bonus comes to meet you as soon as you cut someone... That year.


Will Smiths dead money hits you this year if you cut him.
Will Smith Contract, Salaries, and Transactions
Vilma
Jonathan Vilma Contract, Salaries, and Transactions


Example on Drew Brees:
if we cut him this year 29.6M comes to meet us.
Drew Brees Contract, Salaries, and Transactions


The proratian only fulfills its destiny if the player plays out his contract or it is restructured.

Danno 03-12-2013 09:50 AM

Re: Saints Agree To Terms With LB Junior Galette On Three-Year Contract
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 485120)
That assumption is incorrect.

Dead Money - Prorated bonus comes to meet you as soon as you cut someone... That year.


Will Smiths dead money hits you this year if you cut him.
Will Smith Contract, Salaries, and Transactions
Vilma
Jonathan Vilma Contract, Salaries, and Transactions


Example on Drew Brees:
if we cut him this year 29.6M comes to meet us.
Drew Brees Contract, Salaries, and Transactions


The proratian only fulfills its destiny if the player plays out his contract or it is restructured.

Thats not what I've been reading. If the player has at least 2 years left, you can spread that accellerated bonus money over two seasons.

TheOak 03-12-2013 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 485140)
Thats not what I've been reading. If the player has at least 2 years left, you can spread that accellerated bonus money over two seasons.

If you look at sportrac there is only one line number for dead money when you click on a specific players contract. That number is always in the current year.

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...disasters.html

When a player is released or traded, the remaining proration of the salary components that are treated like a signing bonus immediately accelerate into his team’s current salary cap. For example, if a player signs a five-year contract with a $5 million signing bonus, $1 million of his signing bonus counts towards the salary cap for each year of his five-year contract. If he is released after the second year of his contract, the $2 million of signing bonus proration from the last two years of the contract automatically accelerates into the club’s current cap, creating $3 million of dead money.

Rugby Saint II 03-12-2013 11:58 AM

Re: Saints Agree To Terms With LB Junior Galette On Three-Year Contract
 
I didn't think he had done enough to warrant anything more than a small contract.
RR must like what he sees on film.

Danno 03-12-2013 12:58 PM

Re: Saints Agree To Terms With LB Junior Galette On Three-Year Contract
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 485142)
If you look at sportrac there is only one line number for dead money when you click on a specific players contract. That number is always in the current year.

Dead money disasters | National Football Post

When a player is released or traded, the remaining proration of the salary components that are treated like a signing bonus immediately accelerate into his team’s current salary cap. For example, if a player signs a five-year contract with a $5 million signing bonus, $1 million of his signing bonus counts towards the salary cap for each year of his five-year contract. If he is released after the second year of his contract, the $2 million of signing bonus proration from the last two years of the contract automatically accelerates into the club’s current cap, creating $3 million of dead money.

I'll review more, but it has to do with designating the player as a "June 1st" cut, then you can spread the hit over two years instead of just one.

If we can spread it over 2 years, cutting the 3 amigos (or forcing them to accept much less) is pretty much a no brainer.

The only person who'll have a fit over this is Benson, who will lose about 14 million for nothing.


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