Will Smith, Vilma and Harper ...
 

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I'd only keep Vilma. He doesn't fit, but he actually wants to try to fit contrary to his time in NY.

I guess Smith could do a decent job stopping the run in a 3-4. I say cut him, but oh well.

As for Roman...hes slow, and he can't cover. He wants to hit, but he can't tackle. He loves to play in the box, but he's not really a linebacker. I say use him similar to the way the Honey Badger was used.....unless we get the honey badger himself.

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Because if you just release them and don't get anything for them, which we won't, then they still hit our cap space and we are down 3 players for nothing.

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Not arguing the rest except maybe the Mellivora capensis part, but he has lead the Saints in tackling the past 3 or so years. Maybe we could cut him, but still keep his neck...

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Harper is as fast as most SS's and covers exactly like SS's are supposed to. I've heard conflicting reports about Ryan's preference at safety. Some say he prefers the Strong/Free set up (one in the box / one in center field) and some say he prefers a Right / Left combo.

If he prefers Right/Left, Harpers not a great fit. If he prefers strong/Free, Jenkins isn't such a hot fit.

Vima is a pretty good fit at the weakside ILB. He did not play that position in NY's 3-4.

Smith is the odd man out to me. I'd like to keep him, but I think he's better suited as a 4-3 DE somewhere else.

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That's a very good question. I was wondering the same.

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I don't think the problem is fitting into Ryan's scheme as much as it is fitting into the 123 million cap.

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Harper does play much better in the box. I believe Rex runs the strong/free. I'd prefer old man Adrian Wilson for a year or two, but that's just me. I like elite coverage safeties. We shouldn't need our safety to blitz to be effective. But if we're going to use a Roman Harper style player, we might as well go after Laron Landry. A bigger, faster, and stronger version.

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ROMAN HARPER IS TRADED ALREADY just nobody knows cause that's tampering! The Will Smith situation is a little different he's on the books for 5mil in dead money causr we didn't cut him last year all we did is make it harder to do this year He's Gone and Vilma knows he's just rotational player now and isn't going to command a big salary! I see Roman Harper getting traded to either St Louis or Tenn!

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HEY DANNO TAKE OFF THE ROSE COLORED GLASSES! Harper is garbage the only skill he has is blitzing! HE'S THE WORST SAFETY IN THE LEAGUE! 1st He can't make an open field tackle 2nd Can't Cover TE, RB, and damn sure can't cover WR. 3rd He's slower than our LB 4th MAIN REASON HE MISSES TOO MANY TACKLES. wat can he do Blitz that's few and far between as a S.S. #GARBAGE ESPECIALLY FOR 7the MIL

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Here we go... It is about time for the weekly Harper debate LOL.

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I was about to take the bait, but then I read your post and thought better of it... so thanks! :-)

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Actually, Danno is one of the better informed posters on this board. Cut the man some slack. He's earned it.:handguns:

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2 minutes until free agency starts.....

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Lack of news on Smith, Vilma and Harper means a deal could have been struck...... waiting to hear something.... ANYTHING!

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actually none of them really fit a 34 defense. can you get by with them sure. what worries me is depth more than anything. that is were we hurt.

cap carry over means they stay and we get by
if cut we still get by. Just going to take longer to get a 34 defense in placed that all

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Mellivora capensis .. you had me for a split second. Good one.

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@LarryHolder
#Saints DE Will Smith and LB Jonathan Vilma restructured their contracts to remain with the team, source says.




How much tho?