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Old 03-12-2013, 03:35 PM   #11
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How are we still over the cap after all of this? Were we 30-40 million over it originally and not 20 million?
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Old 03-12-2013, 03:41 PM   #12
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we went back over the cap when the brain trust gave Jr. that new contract
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Why can't we just cut our dead weight?
Bills did, eagles did, why can't we cut the players that aren't productive anymore
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Ain't gonna lie, not happy about Smith remaining with the team. Bite the bullet and wax him already!
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 View Post
Why can't we just cut our dead weight?
Bills did, eagles did, why can't we cut the players that aren't productive anymore
Its never that easy. There are multiple miilions of reasons why we haven't yet.

And 2012 throws in a lot of mis-information that make it difficult to determine who dead weight is.
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I do hope that the restructures include severe pay cuts and no additional years on their contracts.

I can't deny it; I'm a bit disappointed by this even though it was the most probable outcome - I would've wanted a more "clean slate" beginning for Ryan's tenure with getting rid of some of the overpaid veterans.
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Old 03-12-2013, 03:55 PM   #17
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Oh for God's sake... Another season of our coaches starting over-the-hill and unproductive defensive players is in our future. I know that keeping them doesn't necessarily mean that they'll still be starters, but c'mon... You know they will.
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The Bounty Scandal - we're still paying for it...
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Bad move, these guys should have been cut, Would have freed up more space
I doubt that. We would have taken a $7 million cap hit had they been cut.
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Exactly at some point you have to cut ties with these guys....they're not helping at this point in their careers....
Maybe just me, but I think these guys still provide value to this team. Will Smith could be a nice fit as a 3-4 DE which places emphasis on stopping the run; something he does very well (and even though he's not a speed pass rusher, he had second most sacks on the team).

IMHO, these guys are good role players... what we really need is to get impact pass rushers at the 3-4 OLB positions. Getting a few speedy guys to get to the QB will solve a lot of ills on this defense.
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