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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Danno Still waiting on Harper news. I'm beginning to think maybe a trade is involved. With you there Danno....

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Old 03-12-2013, 04:15 PM   #21
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Still waiting on Harper news. I'm beginning to think maybe a trade is involved.
With you there Danno.
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Old 03-12-2013, 04:17 PM   #22
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With you there Danno.
Now that we're under the cap there's no urgency to address the Harper issue.

We may hear nothing about it for a while.
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Old 03-12-2013, 04:20 PM   #23
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You guys all say you wish they were cut outright? We have a $7Million cap hit from them if we cut them! I don't care of we put them on special teams or have them getting Gatorade for the starters - we can't just cut them and eat $7M. At least this way maybe we can trade them each for a 4th, 5th, or 6th round pick now that they have attractive salaries, or can get situational rushes or special teams play for our $$. If we cut them we get SQUAT for our $7Million.
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Old 03-12-2013, 04:27 PM   #24
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bushrod is talking to the bears as i type. LT is a big issue
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Old 03-12-2013, 04:29 PM   #25
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You guys all say you wish they were cut outright? We have a $7Million cap hit from them if we cut them! I don't care of we put them on special teams or have them getting Gatorade for the starters - we can't just cut them and eat $7M. At least this way maybe we can trade them each for a 4th, 5th, or 6th round pick now that they have attractive salaries, or can get situational rushes or special teams play for our $$. If we cut them we get SQUAT for our $7Million.

But you're not taking into account the money they'll - potentially - be paid on top of that dead money.

If it was both of them just for $7M this season it would certainly be more acceptable than the $23M their cap hits would've been this coming season without the restructures (Smith $14.5M & Vilma $8.7M).

You definitely could get quality talent with $16M and "eat" the hit you take in dead money in the process.
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You guys all say you wish they were cut outright? We have a $7Million cap hit from them if we cut them! I don't care of we put them on special teams or have them getting Gatorade for the starters - we can't just cut them and eat $7M. At least this way maybe we can trade them each for a 4th, 5th, or 6th round pick now that they have attractive salaries, or can get situational rushes or special teams play for our $$. If we cut them we get SQUAT for our $7Million.
Good point Torfino. They should be more attractive for teams to trade for.
I hadn't considered this before.

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Old 03-12-2013, 04:42 PM   #27
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But you're not taking into account the money they'll - potentially - be paid on top of that dead money.

If it was both of them just for $7M this season it would certainly be more acceptable than the $23M their cap hits would've been this coming season without the restructures (Smith $14.5M & Vilma $8.7M).

You definitely could get quality talent with $16M and "eat" the hit you take in dead money in the process.
I guess we know till we see the numbers. If we take a $9M total hit then we got a nickel ILB and a situational rusher for $2M. And what price goes on their leadership?

I personally hope we trade them though.
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I guess we know till we see the numbers. If we take a $9M total hit then we got a nickel ILB and a situational rusher for $2M. And what price goes on their leadership?

I personally hope we trade them though.

Yeah, it's kind of hard to know what to make of these restructures until the terms are released.
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Old 03-12-2013, 04:59 PM   #30
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we got time. we are going to add 2nd and 3rd tier fa anyways. let the market prices get set and the big spenders get done. colts are the big spender and winners so far. miami spending big but so big i can not say they are winners

Bushrods market value will determine everything. i bet thats why he is talking to the bears already. getting a feel for the cheese out there for him. i bet the FO is waiting on that info more than other and seeing whats left out there for options if he moves on
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