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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; I think people are complaining because of this long-a@@ offseason and all we hear are falcons, 49ers, seahawks, bears fans pumping their teams up....

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Old 03-14-2013, 06:51 PM   #31
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Re: What exactly are we complaining about?

I think people are complaining because of this long-a@@ offseason and all we hear are falcons, 49ers, seahawks, bears fans pumping their teams up.
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Old 03-14-2013, 06:53 PM   #32
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Re: What exactly are we complaining about?

Originally Posted by lumm0x View Post
The least of Malcolm's problems is his speed. He has proven time and again he can run down players. His has more issue getting looked away from where he will need to be and he has really struggled being opportunistic with the ball in the air. He may be better suited as a SS as his coverage skills are better than Harper in man cover, he supports the run decently and does have a nose for dislodging the ball. He hasn't proven himself as adept a pass rusher as Harper but it could only be lack of opportunity.

Frankly, if we were somehow able to upgrade FS with a better ballhawk, I could see Jenkins at SS and Harper re-signed for cheaper as both depth as well as in big nickel schemes or even as a flat out speed mismatch double edge rush. Kind of a hybrid safety position in lieu of a OLB in passing downs.
Who other then Vincent Jackson has he run down? Don't get me wrong, I see the potential in Jenkins, but it's not like the guy is just flying from sideline to sideline making plays.


Vincent Jackson wasn't even in a true sprint. He was almost trotting.
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Old 03-14-2013, 07:06 PM   #33
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EXACTLY HARPER IS TOO SLOW FOR LINEBACKERUCH LESS SAFETY
And M. Jenkins is better at strong safety and trade Harper or cut him he's garbage in coverage and that's what Ryan's D needs since they have OLB to blitz
Come On I'm more worried about safety than LT cause they'll draft T. Armstead
This is just total nonsense.

Harper is not slow. Too many football noobs point to that Bradford run down, but its obvious that Harper ran out of gas on that play. Don't confuse speed with stamina. Harper was gassed.

Vincent Jackson ran out of gas too. On any day of the week Vincent Jackson beats Malcolm Jenkins by 10 yards on a 100 yard sprint.

Harper has decent speed, especially for a STRONG Safety. Jenkins has average CB speed, and above average FS speed.
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Old 03-14-2013, 07:07 PM   #34
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This is just total nonsense.

Harper is not slow. Too many football noobs point to that Bradford run down, but its obvious that Harper ran out of gas on that play. Don't confuse speed with stamina. Harper was gassed.

Vincent Jackson ran out of gas too. On any day of the week Vincent Jackson beats Malcolm Jenkins by 10 yards on a 100 yard sprint.

Harper has decent speed, especially for a STRONG Safety. Jenkins has average CB speed, and above average FS speed.
Fun fact, Roman Harper actually ran a faster 40 then Malcom Jenkins.
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Old 03-14-2013, 07:11 PM   #35
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First of all, those 40 times average out to a 4.50. It's still not fast. I don't care what you say, or how you try to turn it around. A 4.50 is not fast for a supposed cornerback. It's a decent speed, for a FS, but it's still not even fast for that position. .
Jabari Greer won seven individual state track championships.
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40 Yard Dash: 4.50 seconds
Jabari Greer - CB - Tennessee - 2004 NFL Combine Results

Usain Bolt have a slow 40 but no one can pass him in the 100 meter. They need to change the 40x to 100 meters. The avg qb can throw 55 to 65 yards
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Old 03-14-2013, 07:13 PM   #36
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Jabari Greer won seven individual state track championships. Jabari Greer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.



40 Yard Dash: 4.50 seconds
Jabari Greer - CB - Tennessee - 2004 NFL Combine Results

Usain Bolt have a slow 40 but no one can pass him in the 100 meter. They need to change the 40x to 100 meters. The avg qb can throw 55 to 65 yards
Fun fact: The NFL settled on the 40 because at that time that was the average distance a player must run to cover an NFL punt.
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Jabari Greer won seven individual state track championships. Jabari Greer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.



40 Yard Dash: 4.50 seconds
Jabari Greer - CB - Tennessee - 2004 NFL Combine Results

Usain Bolt have a slow 40 but no one can pass him in the 100 meter. They need to change the 40x to 100 meters. The avg qb can throw 55 to 65 yards
Did you just try to make your point with high school accolades?
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Re: What exactly are we complaining about?

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Who other then Vincent Jackson has he run down?
Well for one example the Dallas game where he ran down Roy Williams and forced the game winning fumble on what would have been a sure TD.
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Old 03-14-2013, 07:16 PM   #39
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I am just saying you can't go by forty to determine speed maybe excelleration but not speed
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Well for one example the Dallas game where he ran down Roy Williams and forced the game winning fumble on what would have been a sure TD.
He kind of just had a good angle on him. But I'll let you have that. I rather just agree to disagree. To me, our defense is slow. So either they're playing slow, or they're just slow period. I believe we need more speed on every level, but most noticeably linebacker.
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