Trade down value-how far are you willing to drop?
 

Assuming the old trade value chart is still fairly accurate, it looks like the value of trading down is as follows...

Trade down around 5 spots = gain a mid 3rd rounder
Trade down around 10 spots = gain a late 2nd rounder
Trade down around 15 spots = gain a mid 2nd rounder
Trade down around 20 spots = gain an early 2nd rounder

With all the talent in this draft, I think trading down about 10 spots looks really tempting.

We'd probably be better off trading down only 5, because I still think you can get top 15 talent at pick 20.

Thoughts?

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Not sure the value holds up... 5 spots ought to be worth more than a mid-third rounder... I mean, just how much did we give up for Ingram? Methinks 5 spots deserves a number two at where we would be anyway.

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There are only about 8-9 defensive players that I like in this draft, we have a slim chance at getting one at 15, and no chance any lower than that. Given that, I believe we can get a similar talent to anyone outside those top 9 all the way into the second round, so I wouldn't mind dropping 15 spots and potentially grabbing 2 guys in that bracket, but dropping 5 or 10 spots would just eliminate our chances of getting a top tier talent without giving us the opportunity at 2 second tier guys. However, I could see a draft day trade down in that range if most of the defensive talent is pulled off the board early (likely) and we have no chance at any of them any way.

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I'd be willing to trade down 10-15 spots depending on who we target. Picking up a second round pick would really be useful this year, even if it was to only pizz off Godhell. :razz:

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That seems like biting off your nose to spite your face...

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Kinda depends on who's available at the 15 spot.

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I would probably be willing to drop the entire 20 spots. we would have just about the same value in players if we dropped 10 or 20. 2 early in the 2nd would give us alot more possibilities. I would hate to reach for someone at 15. This draft seems a little bit light on talent. 15 through 30.

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A part of me would like to see the Saints trade down. Our track record has not been great with first round picks. If we could trade down 5 to 10 slots, and pick up an extra third, I'd be okay with this. We don't seem to get good value for our first rounders, save for Bush or maybe Jordan. Loomis, Payton and the scouting department seem to get good value out of their picks later in the draft.

But we really could use an extra pick or two... and we really need to hit on the picks this draft.

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Good Stuff...

Now, using our history from the 2008 NFL draft, we moved from the 10th pick to the 7th pick in a consolation trade with New England after failing to get a fair deal from Kansas City when trying to select Glenn Dorsey with KC's No. 5 pick...

In the trade exchanging our 1R (10, Jerod Mayo, TEN) and 3R (78, Shawn Crable) for the Patriots' 1R (7, Sed Ellis, USC) and 5R (164, Carl Nicks, Neb)...

Ironically, or commonly when reflecting on the Saints recent draft history, the lowest pick was the best of the players involved...

If we moved down those few spots, I'd expect the same kind of deal where we could give up our 6R and gain a 3R for moving five spots; that would be an equitable trade; or I'd be aggressive and give a 5R for another trading team's second round pick...

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Wow! Throw in Ivory for some multiple picks?

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I'd really like to see us keep Ivory. I love his punishing, physical style when running the ball...

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Love him when he's running, not so much when he's not....

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Agreed. I think what works against us getting a second or even a third rounder for Ivory is the fact that he always seems to be hurt.

But I would rather see the team keep the extra running backs on the roster. Depth will be more important there if we are going to run the ball more than we did a year ago.

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I say to hell with trading down. Next year we wont be drafting anywhere near as high and punk ass Roger would love for us to end up with just average guys. Thats his plan all along. I hope we keep the pick and draft a defensive M.V.P and one of Rogers family members {maybe if he has sons or someone real close to him}plays against the saints and the guy we drafted gives Rogers family member a concus and he becomes a vegetable. Then we r even.

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Trade down around 15 spots = gain a mid 2nd rounder
Trade down around 20 spots = gain an early 2nd rounder

History has it you get more in value than these. It costs to get a team to give up a first rounder.

The Patriots traded their 28th overall pick to the New Orleans Saints for a 2011 second rounder pick (56th overall) and a first round selection in 2012

I think we have a shot at trading with a team looking for OG this year. it is a weak year for interior line man in the mid rounds. opps back on topic

i would not mind trading out of one all together bank roll a pick for next year. i am a fan of baby stepping down. i always like building depth in rounds 3 to 5.

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I think this may be one of the craziest posts I have ever read in my entire life. Also, f*ck Roger Goodell. A+

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So, how do you really feel about Goodell?

Not sure it came across in your post.

Who Dat? darksoul! I like how your mind works!

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I concur with the nuttiness and the FURG!

Made my night.

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I hate to be like that but the dude is hating on us. He knows what our running back is capable of and thats why he made the crown rule. I was wanting one of yall to get him during the superbowl. He is going to ruin the N.F.L.

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I would like us to trade down enough to see us pick 2 times in the 2nd round, there will be some real good players left in the 2nd and 3rd rounds, their there every year. That big, big DT out of Georgia in the 3rd.

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Not sure what to give up for it, but I agree with whoever said it, I definitely want to see Payton and Loomis have a pick in the 2nd round, just to p-zz off Goodell! It would be worth it just to have his stern punishment blow up in his face in public like that.

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I've seen this posted a few times and I just don't get it.

If we trade down and pick up a 2nd rounder, or trade a player to get a 2nd, how does that piss off Roger Goodell?

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Because he took away our 2nd round pick as a punishment. Maybe "piss off" is too strong a word, but it would kinda be egg on his face, metaphorically thumbing the nose, it just makes him look like he's not really in charge the way he thinks he is. I mean if you're the Dad, and you punish a child by saying "I'm the Dad, and I say no cookies from the cookie jar," and the kid ends up getting cookies from Mom, that kind of makes Dad look bad, and defeats the purpose of the punishment, don't you think?

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I wouldn't be shocked if there is a Multi team deal regarding the 1st round pick...

Trade player to Receive pick
trade received pick
Multi player/pick deal

Not sure Loomis/Payton has pulled the last card from their sleeves

Wouldn't suprise me if they just made the pick with no deals/trades/etc.

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Yeah but if Mom made the kid go mow the lawn and take out the trash (akin to us trading back) then Dad actually won that encounter. If we trade back, Roger probably still sees that as a victory because he made us give up something to get what we originally could have had for free. FURG

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Except if we trade down 10 spots for mid second rounder, then we would just be in the same draft position as if he hadn't suspended SP and taken that pick away. We have more room to trade down in the first place because of his other punishment, remember?

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Touche, salesman

Great point

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Still doesn't make sense. It still requires us to pay for that 2nd round pick.

I don't think RG should care at all. He's already taken the pick away and we aren't getting it back without giving something else up.

Unless someone just gives us their 2nd rounder for free, Roger wins.

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I see that point, but it still is a net loss. The fact that we had to go through a terrible season to get a higher pick, to be able to trade down is a loss. We were sure fire superbowl contenders until Roger Hussein started his witch hunt.

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It doesn't really...............it would be no more than a little prod in his side. But it feels good to dream about it.:p

I'd happily trade back into the 22-32 range for a second rounder.
Can't see it happening though,I think slot of teams would be happy to trade back.

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For the record, I don't think RG could give two rosy sh!ts about anything the Saints do any more. I just think that ruining our season was kind of a blessing in disguise since it cancels out his other punishment.