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NFL owners end tuck rule, approve helmet penalty - ESPN

Continues destroying the game.. I become less and less interested in it.

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I'll wait on the running back helmet rule until I see it officiated, the other stuff doesn't bother me, and its awesome that the tuck rule is gone. So overall this seems like moving back in the right direction. Getting rid of purposeful injury causing conduct without penalizing players for playing good football. They still need to fix the absurd helmet-to-helmet officiating and 15-yards for lightly tapping a QB on the side of the helmet, but I'm okay with one step at a time.

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OMG this is the dumbest thing I have ever heard in my entire life NFL related.

How can they enforce this?

Because lawyers scared of future claims now run the league.
Just think,if you don't have players getting hurt you can up the season to 18 games and make more money.

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They should have made a ruling that if a Quarterback ducks into a tackle then it can't be considered striking the Qb in the head (see the Philadelphia game last year) A perfectly legal, well executed tackle is penalised because the Quarterback ducked his head into it. They should have looked into that!

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I approve of the helmet rule wholeheartedly.
Sincerely,
Scott Shanle

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So that monster run Earl Campbell had where he head butted the defender in the chest and kept going is still Ok? He lead with his face mask which appears not to be an infraction under the new rule. Think of all of the flags Mike Alstott would have drawn...and Christian Okoye.

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I approve of the helmet rule wholeheartedly.
Sincerely,
Pierre Thomas during the 49'ers playoff game

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I think the helmet rule only applies to the runner, not the defender nailing him.

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Wow way to pussify the league even more. I'm tellin y'all in 10 years it will be flag football. So basically everytime a running back touches the ball there is a good chance a flag will be thrown.

The problem is this is "OUR" league and we all fund it as fans. In my opinion the product on the field is turning to sh!t and there is nothing we can do about it. Seeing a running back truck over a guy and out maning him is one of the best things of American football. I really cannot believe what's going on here.

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They actually approve that stupid helmet rule.. i cant tell if this is the NFL or the Arena Football League.

Let just get rid of the aspect of running the ball altogether.

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F You Goddell

You have got to be kidding me, stupid owners fall in line with that power hungry bozo of a commish, player safety my ***. At least one owner grew a backbone, wonder who that was? Good god, when my son is old enough to understand watching football, I'm going to have to show him games from before 2010 because with each passing day this game becomes closer and closer to becoming flag football

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LMAO running backs are going to have to hit the gaps with thier heads held high and just hope and pray that they dont get lit the **** up by an incoming defender

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New helmet-use rule is more narrow, limited than believed | ProFootballTalk
The Commissioner’s traditional end-of-meetings press conference quickly morphed into a panel discussion, with a variety of coaches, executives, and officials explaining to the media (and, necessarily, to everyone else) the ins-and-outs of the new rule regarding the use of the helmet.

While Falcons president Rich McKay acknowledged that the new rule is a “pretty major change,” the new rule is much narrower and limited than many believe.

The new rule prohibits ball carriers and defensive players from initiating contact in the open field with the crown of the helmet. The crown, as explained by Rams coach Jeff Fisher, is the top of the helmet. The facemask and hairline of the helmet may still be used to initiate contact.

Fisher emphasized that ball carriers will be permitted to protect themselves, by dropping their pads and dipping their helmets. A foul arises only if the top of the helmet is used to ram the opponent.

In that way, the new rule is an extension of the rule against spearing, which in NFL parlance means hitting a player who is on the ground with the crown (top) of the helmet.

Also, the blow with the top of the helmet must be “forcible,” a know-it-when-you-see-it standard that could potentially cause reasonable minds to differ. As a result, the decision will be treated as a judgment call, not subject to replay review.

These types of hits are not rare. The league office studied every game during two weeks of the 2012 season — Week 10 and Week 16 — and determined that 11 total hits during those 32 games would have drawn flags. To the extent those numbers can be extrapolated, that’s one flag for illegal use of the crown of the helmet in the open field every three games.

McKay explained that the league hopes the new rule will trickle down to the lower levels of the sport, like other safety-related changes. McKay specifically pointed to the adoption of the horse-collar rule at the college and high school level.

So it’s not as bad as some think, and anyone who still doesn’t like it has plenty of time to work through the various stages of grief and arrive at acceptance before the Cowboys and Dolphins suit up in early August for the Hall of Fame game.

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I BET IT WON'T BE CALLED MORE THAN 10 TIMES THE WHOLE SEASON!
So all the bashing and shots taken at the rule comes basically back to Goodell's arrogant attitude in handling of discipline in heavy fines and biased judgment without
Independent arbitrators handling the judging! So I get it, but I bet the refs don't call it
BUT YOU WILL SEE FINES WHICH IS GARBAGE! The same NFL that exploits and profits off of the big hits and really physical play! NFL OWNERS MIGHT NEED TO PUT A LEASH ON GOODELL AND HIS ARROGANCE WITH HOW HE MAKES BIASED DECISIONS BASED ON HIS OPINIONS AND MOTIVES!
#bountygate was worse or equal to #spygate is an absolute joke
When your spying your messing with integrity of the game.
When talking placing bounties all your doing is rewarding, what your planning to do anyway hitting qbs is a defenses job!!! COME ON WHAT A JOKE!

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roflmao you gotta be kidding. the freaking lawyers are going to kill this game. the killed the secondary already and now they are killing the running backs.

the running backs and neck injuries will increase. what a bunch of idiots.

next up a flopping rule. RB will be running out of bounds like never before and doing QB slides. boy this is going to freaking fun

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Why is it I can already hear Sky Mike saying, "leave my football alone"

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It will be interesting to see where the sport of football will be in 10, 15 years from now as it pertains to 'league rules'.

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More fines?

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I dont think it is as bad as yall are making it out to be.... geezzz

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You may be right, but based on what I've seen them do with the "defensless receiver" and the new catch rules concerning a "football move", and the "fumble/no fumble ball moving as it hits the ground but still in his hands" etc...

I'm skeptical this is going to go over well.

I'd love to see an example of what is, and what isn't, a violation.

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Next play will be to get the players on record saying they hate the rule...

once that is accomplished, you have a chip when former players file their lawsuit - Joe Horn, all his kids, Over the Hill Footballers et al vs the NFL...

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Why do things need to be so complicated?

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Good point. So a runner can still get brain trauma from a defender via a helmet to helmet hit and that's ok?

never mind, saw the answer....yes to both.

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The commissioner will arbitraily decide on violations and penalties based on popularity of the player/franchise like all of the other illegal hits.

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Exactly Danno, flag fest- boring

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So much for gaining that extra yard and a first down. This means more punts and more rules so the returners don't get hurt. It's crap I tell you......more crap from Godhell.

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Well I guess we'll know who will be the most penalized team if this is the governing party.

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And yet the NFL still put out videos like

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Can you imagine we are down by 4 with 15 seconds left on the clock and its 3rd and goal on the 3 yard line; we hand off to PT who lowers his head and drives a guy back for a touchdown right!

No 15 yard penalty and it's 4th down backed up 15 yards. If that happens and it cost us the game, then come back and tell me it's no big deal. Just sayin.

He Tuck rule is what happens when rules are made out of a need to "do something", rather than logic.

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A little over 10 years late for the Raiders!!

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About 10 years late for the Raiders!!