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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by rezburna none of those players covered anybody in college. They were all defensive ends. Jones converted from safety to LB. I think you have some of that mixed up. Ogletree was a former safety that moved to ...

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Old 03-21-2013, 09:25 PM   #21
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Originally Posted by rezburna View Post
none of those players covered anybody in college. They were all defensive ends. Jones converted from safety to LB.
I think you have some of that mixed up. Ogletree was a former safety that moved to LB not Jones. Jordan covered receivers and TE's routinely at Oregon.
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How often does a defensive lineman run 40 yards during a game? Not often. The fact is, in 2011 he had 13.5 sacks and 19.5 tackles for a loss, and in 2012, he had 14.5 sacks and 24.5 tackles for a loss. So, over the last two seasons, the man has had 28 sacks and 44 tackles for losses. He's also recorded 155 tackles over the last two seasons (averaging 77.5 per season). Plus he plays against quality players being at Georgia. He's been productive, he's able to get after the quarterback and makes plays. I'd be ecstatic if he falls to us. Getting a player of his caliber coming off the edge is what we're looking in a 3-4 rush LB.
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Originally Posted by NinthWardJay View Post
Anybody that says that they hope they don't get a player like Jarvis Jones must not have seen him play. That's really all I can say about that.
I have no questions about his abilities, the dudes a stud. My only question is can he play 10 years with his injuries or will he only be able to play 3 or 4 years. If the Saints think he can play 10 years Id jump all over him.

I don't get too excited or disappointed when it comes to pro days.
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There aren't 64 players better than Jarvis Jones in this draft. He won't make it out of the first. No way he's still there in the third.
He'll be available in the second... we can drop, get the Alabama NT Jesse Williams, grab Jones in the second where he should be slotted then its a win - win....
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I don't think he makes it past the Steelers at 17
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 View Post
If he can't rush AND cover, then he's not a top 15 pick IMO.

Mingo , Jordan and Ansah seem to have him beat there.
I don't think he's a one trick pony. This is from his draft profile on nfl.com:


ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS Versatile linebacker with a chance to play inside or outside. Possesses a very good first step to pressure tackles’ upfield shoulder. Also has closing speed to finish the deal and short-area quickness to keep contain outside and crash down on inside runs. Strong tackler with excellent length and upper-body strength to wrap up ball carriers. Gets under the pads of tackles, keeps his feet churning, to maintain leverage whether holding the edge or bulling his man backwards. Brings heavy hands, can rip off to get around the edge or cut inside to stop quarterbacks from stepping up in the pocket. Works through double-teams if the quarterback hangs onto the ball in the pocket. Holds his ground against pulling guards and fullbacks. Capable of locking up tight ends off the edge in coverage, also sorts out multiple routes in his direction to make a play on the correct one. Gets his hands up to affect passing lanes.

WEAKNESSES One-year starter. Inconsistent using his hands to disengage from better blocks and to beat cut blocks from running backs in pass pro. Lacks an ideal frame to get much bigger and doesn’t have the growth potential to the bulk teams want at the position. Will need to prove he can stay with NFL ball carriers in space when dropping into the flat. Not particularly smooth in deep drops. Doesn’t have elite bend around the corner, and could use a spin or other counter move to keep tackles guessing. Missed the last five games of the 2009 with a neck injury, part of his senior year in high school with a broken thumb. There is some concern about his long-term durability due to his spinal stenosis condition, the same ailment that has caused some players to call it quits, including Marcus McNeill, Chris Samuels and Michael Irvin.
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I don't think he makes it past the Steelers at 17
Then you obviously haven't taken a look at his medical, this spinal thing would scare the living s&*t out of me if I were a GM, plus bad pro day... Some team is gonna bite, but I think it would be a mistake to bite on Jones in the first round, I feel the same way about Manti!!!
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 View Post
If he can't rush AND cover, then he's not a top 15 pick IMO.

Mingo , Jordan and Ansah seem to have him beat there.
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He'll be available in the second... we can drop, get the Alabama NT Jesse Williams, grab Jones in the second where he should be slotted then its a win - win....
I hope you're right about that. I'd love to have both players.
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Then you obviously haven't taken a look at his medical, this spinal thing would scare the living s&*t out of me if I were a GM, plus bad pro day... Some team is gonna bite, but I think it would be a mistake to bite on Jones in the first round, I feel the same way about Manti!!!
Oh Im well aware of his medical issues. Just my opinion, I agree someone will bite and it just might be the Saints.
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I am more concerned about his medical status than about his 40 time.
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