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hagan714 03-24-2013 07:49 PM

NFL Rumors – Saints Want Branden Albert
 
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The Kansas City Chiefs are officially trying to get rid of their left tackle, Branden Albert, hoping to get a second round draft pick for him and another one for next year’s NFL draft, hoping that needy teams at the position – the Miami Dolphins, San Diego Chargers and the New Orleans Saints want him badly enough to give away two selections.

With the number one pick in the NFL draft, it’s more than likely the Chiefs are going to try and get an offensive tackle – Luke Joeckel coming out of Texas A&M seems to be the first name on their mind, but he’s not alone in it. It’s not just Joeckel they’re think of. They gave up a draft pick to trade for Alex Smith from the San Francisco 49ers, and the Chiefs are trying to get at least something back this year already, maybe adding another offensive line signing after releasing Eric Winston, their right tackle.

The Dolphins are definitely thinking about going for Albert, seeing as how they lost their starting left tackle of the past few years, Jake Long, to the St. Louis Rams. The San Diego Chargers are in a worse position, having a crumbled O-Line, also losing Louis Vasquez to the Denver Broncos in free agency. They won’t be able to fill all their needs through the draft, and going for Albert, who recently signed a franchise tender worth $9.8 million for the coming season, might be the best solution available.

The New Orleans Saints weren’t such a mess, protection-wise, like the desperate Charges. Still, after losing Jermon Bushrod, the Saints are facing the question of either doing some re-shuffling in front of Drew Brees, or bringing in an accomplished player, that is 28 but has only one 16-game season under his belt since joining the Chiefs in 2008.


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Danno 03-24-2013 08:05 PM

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I'm sold. I hope Mickey can work his magic and get him.

Maybe our 3rd and Ivory, and a conditional 2014 pick?

Please MIHL!

|Mitch| 03-24-2013 08:10 PM

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I don't know anything about Albert, is he any good?

Joker 03-24-2013 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 489626)
I don't know anything about Albert, is he any good?

Castle stayed on his ass, what does that tell you besides he sucks.

The Dude 03-24-2013 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 489624)
I'm sold. I hope Mickey can work his magic and get him.

Maybe our 3rd and Ivory, and a conditional 2014 pick?

Please MIHL!

Think he's worth that much?

TheEnigma 03-24-2013 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 489624)
I'm sold. I hope Mickey can work his magic and get him.

Maybe our 3rd and Ivory, and a conditional 2014 pick?

Please MIHL!

I don't think he's worth that. I'd say maybe a 4th or 5th.

jnormand 03-24-2013 08:38 PM

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How does Albert grade out?

darksoul35 03-24-2013 08:41 PM

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He has to suck or they would keep him and use their pick on a playmaking skill positional player. If cheifs dont want him why would we?

Danno 03-24-2013 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Joker (Post 489627)
Castle stayed on his ass, what does that tell you besides he sucks.

Maybe "Castle" doesn't know WTF is going on?

Maybe they aren't on the same page in the playbook?

Maybe "Castle" wants to blame someone else for his failure?

Jeff George and Ryan Leaf stayed on his O-lineman's asses too.

QBREES9 03-24-2013 09:04 PM

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Get this deal done !

WhoDat!656 03-24-2013 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 489634)
Maybe "Castle" doesn't know WTF is going on?

Maybe they aren't on the same page in the playbook?

Maybe "Castle" wants to blame someone else for his failure?

Jeff George and Ryan Leaf stayed on his O-lineman's asses too.

I think what Joker meant was that Cassel stayed on his ass, as in knocked down/sacked, not on Albert's

xan 03-24-2013 10:08 PM

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Data?

FinSaint 03-24-2013 10:20 PM

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Albert was the OT I most wanted out of all the possible FAs this offseason before he got the tag placed on him.

I'd be all for getting him in the black & gold, because he would be an upgrade over Bushrod, but as it stands now, he has that $9.8M tag on him for next season and that's way too much money for the Saints. They'd need to negotiate a new contract with him to coincide with the trade and Albert would be probably looking for Jake Long type of money - in the ball park of $9M/yr. I just don't think the Saints can afford him, and that's why he'll probably end up in Miami out of the potential suitors mentioned in the article.

He's a really good LT, but he hasn't been happy in Kansas City - who would be? - and his services are pricey; those are the two main reasons why the Chiefs might be looking for a trading partner for his services.

lumm0x 03-24-2013 10:34 PM

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Same assessment from me. Better than Bushrod, much better than anyone we still have, but still far too expensive for us. I don't see how we can get this done.

Rugby Saint II 03-24-2013 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by lumm0x (Post 489652)
Same assessment from me. Better than Bushrod, much better than anyone we still have, but still far too expensive for us. I don't see how we can get this done.

Right on brother!:saintsfan:

st thomas 03-24-2013 11:24 PM

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Its why cassille is gone.finger pointer

lsutigerfan 03-25-2013 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by darksoul35 (Post 489632)
He has to suck or they would keep him and use their pick on a playmaking skill positional player. If cheifs dont want him why would we?

If he sucked they wouldn't of franchised him.

mikesaintfan 03-25-2013 03:53 AM

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Gotta do something at LT

halloween 65 03-25-2013 07:30 AM

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Draft a LT. if K.C. is asking to much or trade a player of equal value.

FinSaint 03-25-2013 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 489666)
Draft a LT. if K.C. is asking to much or trade a player of equal value.


The main problem is not the actual trade for Albert's rights, but the salary he would be asking for. He undoubtedly would be asking for a salary around the $8M/yr mark (maybe a little less, but more likely a little more) and the Saints just can't afford to spend that much on a LT with what they're already paying their guard tandem.

Albert would be a great solution for the LT, IMO, but it's not a realistic solution because of the financial implications involved.

darksoul35 03-25-2013 07:46 AM

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I hear you I just dont understand why if they like their tackle would they draft another so high. I never understood taking a O-lineman with that high of a pick. I know the line is important but the cheifs need a lot more help than a tackle.

FinSaint 03-25-2013 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by darksoul35 (Post 489669)
I hear you I just dont understand why if they like their tackle would they draft another so high. I never understood taking a O-lineman with that high of a pick. I know the line is important but the cheifs need a lot more help than a tackle.


Albert has been unhappy there and wasn't even seeking a contract with the Chiefs according to some reports before the tag deadline, so it would be only logical that the Chiefs are looking for a long term replacement for him instead of spending absurd amounts of cap to tag Albert to stay with the team once again next year.

If an OT is good enough to be picked high in the 1st round, a team even considering that position to be one of need should jump on that OT without a seconds notice. Minnesota did just that with Matt Kalil last year, and now they have an elite LT under contract for little under $5/yr average. Seeing as Bushrod just got a contract with $7.2M/yr average and Kalil being a far superior talent to him - it's not difficult to see where the benefit lies in drafting a player high in that position.

Joker 03-25-2013 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 489634)
Maybe "Castle" doesn't know WTF is going on?

Maybe they aren't on the same page in the playbook?

Maybe "Castle" wants to blame someone else for his failure?

Jeff George and Ryan Leaf stayed on his O-lineman's asses too.

Maybe that's your opinion and he just sucks

Joker 03-25-2013 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by lsutigerfan (Post 489657)
If he sucked they wouldn't of franchised him.

The coaching staff and GM was fired after the season, apparently they didn't make very good d elisions and they're picking # 1 in this years draft. What does that tell you?

Danno 03-25-2013 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Joker (Post 489673)
The coaching staff and GM was fired after the season, apparently they didn't make very good d elisions and they're picking # 1 in this years draft. What does that tell you?

So that means every player on the team sucks?

Thats extremely shortsighted.

Joker 03-25-2013 08:15 AM

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[QUOTE=Danno;489674]So that means every player on the team sucks?

Thats extremely shortsighted.[/

It's my opinion, I remember you bashing people on another thread for their opinion, looks like you're doing it again. Yes I do believe with the exception of a handful of players the majority of that team sucks.

Being shortsighted may apply to you as well, my opinion.

jeanpierre 03-25-2013 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 489634)
Maybe "Castle" doesn't know WTF is going on?

Maybe they aren't on the same page in the playbook?

Maybe "Castle" wants to blame someone else for his failure?

Jeff George and Ryan Leaf stayed on his O-lineman's asses too.

He had a pretty good season in New England before going to KC...

And Albert has said he won't move inside to guard or play right tackle where both previous and current KC regimes feel he's better suited...

But Matt Cassel spent alot of time on his @$$ and Albert was supposed to be the guy protecting him...

KC always wants Boardwalk rent for Cannery Row accommodations; wait till they release him and sign him as a Right Tackle...

Joker 03-25-2013 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 489676)
He had a pretty good season in New England before going to KC...

And Albert has said he won't move inside to guard or play right tackle where both previous and current KC regimes feel he's better suited...

But Matt Cassel spent alot of time on his @$$ and Albert was supposed to be the guy protecting him...

KC always wants Boardwalk rent for Cannery Row accommodations; wait till they release him and sign him as a Right Tackle...

JP you forgot one thing,the price tag for this guy is way too high, other than that I agree with you 100%, well said.

halloween 65 03-25-2013 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 489668)
The main problem is not the actual trade for Albert's rights, but the salary he would be asking for. He undoubtedly would be asking for a salary around the $8M/yr mark (maybe a little less, but more likely a little more) and the Saints just can't afford to spend that much on a LT with what they're already paying their guard tandem.

Albert would be a great solution for the LT, IMO, but it's not a realistic solution because of the financial implications involved.

So do you think it would be better to draft one or pick up one on the open market, it's a important position that has to be addressed? After the center from Chi-town didn't work out at all, I'm a little skeptic but DLP came in and has played well.

jeanpierre 03-25-2013 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Joker (Post 489679)
JP you forgot one thing,the price tag for this guy is way too high, other than that I agree with you 100%, well said.

In the rest of the league, the LT make more than the other linemen and I was thinking that but just didn't post it and you're right we don't have the room for another 6+ mil/annum lineman that's not playing TE...

Danno 03-25-2013 09:10 AM

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[quote=Joker;489675]
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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 489674)
It's my opinion, I remember you bashing people on another thread for their opinion, looks like you're doing it again. Yes I do believe with the exception of a handful of players the majority of that team sucks.

Being shortsighted may apply to you as well, my opinion.

I'm not bashing people, I'm bashing their opinions because in my opinion their opinion is wrong.

And its also my opinion that thinking every player on a bad team sucks is an extremely shortsighted opinion.

Its my opinion that you probably missed the part where I said "thats extremely shortshighted" instead of "you're extremely shortsighted".

hagan714 03-25-2013 09:18 AM

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i really think albert wants out and knows he is not really wanted anyways.

price is a bit step in trade price.

then again if he comes here and goes for a really cap friendly price then you would have pause.

he could sign a one or two year deal just to get out.

or the trade could involve similar cap carrying players. Harper? comes to mind. no i am not ready trade him because i have no idea if we have anyone to really replace him for the entire season. do they need a SS anyways?

FinSaint 03-25-2013 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 489682)
So do you think it would be better to draft one or pick up one on the open market, it's a important position that has to be addressed? After the center from Chi-town didn't work out at all, I'm a little skeptic but DLP came in and has played well.


I really think that the best solution at this point and with the cap restrictions the Saints have would be to pick an OT with LT capability from the draft somewhere around the 4th or 5th round and then just try to manage with the current guys on the roster and developing that draft pick for future starting role or injury relief duty (i.e. Brown relief duty).

It might not sound all that comforting, but Brees has to find away to work around this issue with his fat wallet.

FinSaint 03-25-2013 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 489693)
or the trade could involve similar cap carrying players. Harper? comes to mind. no i am not ready trade him because i have no idea if we have anyone to really replace him for the entire season. do they need a SS anyways?


The problem with that is that Harper's prorated signing bonus would still stay with the Saints even after the trade, as was explained to me by Danno earlier.

FinSaint 03-25-2013 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 489692)
I'm not bashing people, I'm bashing their opinions because in my opinion their opinion is wrong.


Congrats man!

That was pure gold and worthy of accompanying Mr. Wilson's quote on a sig. ;-)

CheramieIII 03-25-2013 09:51 AM

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maybe ivory and a 4th I would be reluctant to trade INgram in this situation. I would rather have a nose tackle and pick for Ingram.

hagan714 03-25-2013 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 489695)
The problem with that is that Harper's prorated signing bonus would still stay with the Saints even after the trade, as was explained to me by Danno earlier.

yes straight up trade sure. there are ways to redo anything and there is also eating the money and use it to devalue picks in the trade.

there is always a way

burningmetal 03-25-2013 10:11 AM

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It would make no sense to get Albert, for what the Chiefs will want. Why sign an average tackle who will want more money soon enough, and lose all kinds of picks, when you can just draft a tackle in the first (though I'd much prefer defense at 15) and still have your other picks. We're better off signing Bryant Mckinnie for a year.

tavia45 03-25-2013 10:32 AM

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They're asking for to much, I hope the saints don't let them make a fool out them with that offer that's asking too much.

jnormand 03-25-2013 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 489694)
It might not sound all that comforting, but Brees has to find away to work around this issue with his fat wallet.

Fin that's it! Brees could use his wallet as a LT! Or maybe we dont need a LT because the wallet can provide all that padding if he gets hit.


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