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Old 09-10-2004, 04:05 PM   #1
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Well I must say about the Seahawks game i'm pretty pessimist

my reasons are as follows:

1) The saints year in and year out show there inability too stop the run. "quote the joke in ohio from my freinds that rag on me for being a saints fan is they run right bayou".

2) The saints have not beat the seahawks since 91 we played them in 2000, 2003, and now. They may of played them in 97 i'll get back too you on that.

3.) saints secondary is slow can bat dow passes and cover well but speed kills.


keys too winning the Seahawks game

1) constant pressure on qb

2) stopping the run

3) managing too get a lead early we cannot get behind bye 14 points in this one or it is over yes brooks has awesome come from behind ratios but still.

4) give them a heavy dose of duece and if we have the lead make the clock tick and cause seattle too use all there timeouts bye making the clock tick.

5) brooks must not back peddle 15 yards than try too scrample he must have poise in the pocket if nothing is there throw it too the back coming out of the backfeild or one of his check downs such as maybe a tight end across the middle. Or throw it away or run with it if you see a lane don't get too far out of the pocket. No forcing throws if nothing is there duece is great coming out of the backfeild.
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Old 09-10-2004, 04:19 PM   #2
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yeah they played them in 97 also. So in 91 the the saints beat the seahawks 27 24 in the 4th quarter with a last second touchdown pass. since than the saints have played seattle 3 times and lost all 3 thoughs years where 97, 2000,2003, lets stop this streak right here pleast this is pethetic. I think we have an excuse for the year 97 but 2000, and 2003 hell no. Except for maybe porous defence. Bye the way when will the saints shut out a team again it has not happened since 95 when the saints beat the jets 12-0
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Brook better have perfected the 3-step drop. With his quad injury, he\'ll need to stay as stable in the pocket as he can get and fire the ball quickly into OUR RECEIVERS HANDS. We don\'t need him running around the entire field to try and find an open receiver. Seattle will come to play and play hard. The line needs to give Brooks as much protection as possible on passing plays and open up holes for Deuce against an average-at best defensive line. The Hawks D will be focused on Brooks\' injury and hope they knock him out of the game. We definitely don\'t need Brooks getting hurt with Bouman waiting in the wings. They also need to control Grant Wistrom who seems to save his career games against the Saints. I have a feeling Deuce is going to be HUGE in this game, which will open up the passing game plenty for Brooks to pick apart the Seattle secondary. No matter how much talent they have back there, you can exploit them when they have to pull a safety in the box to stop Deuce. CAN\'T SUNDAY GET HERE ANY FASTER??????

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Old 09-10-2004, 04:54 PM   #4
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Ok, here\'s how we win.

1. Deuce runs it right down their throat, killing the clock and keeping their offense off the field. If we control the clock, we have a chance.

2. If Brooks doesn\'t hold the ball too long, waiting for our recievers to get separation, then we might be able to keep them from putting 8-9 in the box and give Deuce a chance to win this one for us.

Our defense can\'t keep them from scoring, we need to keep the offense on the field.
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Use Deuce as a decoy. Come out throwing... spread them out and no huddle offense. You play to your strenghts. Bring out 4 wide reciever sets and pass to Deuce out of the backfield as well. Seahawks are no slouches, bad on the road so that is a plus for us... but they can beat us running the ball and throwing against Ashley so no toying around and keeping it close... its gunslinger time.
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spread them out and no huddle offense.
Uhh, have the Saints EVER succeded in running a no-huddle offense?
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spread them out and no huddle offense. You play to your strenghts. Bring out 4 wide reciever sets and pass to Deuce out of the backfield as well.
Uh, this is actually a great idea. The Seahawks strength on D is their secondary - but that really applies to them in pass coverage. Their corners and safeties are big hitters and not scared of contact, but they excel against the pass, not the run. Their LBs are pretty darn good too, but hurting and questionable. Their line is pretty bad.

Why not spread the field and make them try to stop Deuce on so sprint tosses or zone runs with their d line? I\'ll take Deuce in the secondary against DBs over 8 in the box anyday. That said, odds are we lineup in a 2 TE set and have two runs between the tackles on our first 3 plays. Anybody want to bet on that?

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That said, odds are we lineup in a 2 TE set and have two runs between the tackles on our first 3 plays. Anybody want to bet on that?
No. Ya know why? Cause Carl Smith was cremated, and McCarthy snorted his ashes. :mad2: :mad2:
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Well I must say about the Seahawks game i'm pretty pessimist

my reasons are as follows:

1) The saints year in and year out show there inability too stop the run. \"quote the joke in ohio from my freinds that rag on me for being a saints fan is they run right bayou\".
That has been the case in the past. However the Dome Patrol of the early 90\'s could stop the run. Pease was the coach of the D-Line for that group. Pease was the coach of the D-line of the Jaguars who went from the bottom of the league in rush defense to #2 last year. Pease is now the coach of our D-Line. I\'ll bet that the run defense will improve due to better gap control by the D-line and the addition of Watson who seems to be in the right position to make the play most of the time.

2) The saints have not beat the seahawks since 91 we played them in 2000, 2003, and now. They may of played them in 97 i\'ll get back too you on that.
Irrelevant. Even the fact that we played them last year really doesn\'t matter. These two teams are closely matched. History will probably not play a part in it.

3.) saints secondary is slow can bat dow passes and cover well but speed kills.
True. The secondary is going to have to play somewhat conservatively, tackle well, tackle well and tackle well. They are not an all star group. But everyone, except for probably Ambrose, are serviceable. Their jobs is to not give up the long ball, and cover well enough for the D-Line to unleash hell upon Hasselbeck.

I admit that our defense isn\'t going to dominate anyone, at least not in the early going. If they can only do the job of getting off the field without giving up too many points (say 13-15 per game) then the team will be competitive.

I think that all three safeties will ensure that the ball stays out front and not give up the big play. Jones is lighter and quicker this year. I just fervently hope that he can have the discipline to tackle instead of trying to blow up receivers.


keys too winning the Seahawks game

1) constant pressure on qb
Definitely key #1. Make Hasselbeck uncomfortable in the pocket.

2) stopping the run
Definitely #2. Statistically the passing defense is the Saints\' strength. Billy has posted over and over that the #9 pass defense ranking from last year wasn\'t a fluke. But teams didn\'t really feel compelled to test that aspect because the run defense was really poor (140+ YPG and huge runs given up to Dunn and Davis for example). As crazy as it sounds we really want to force teams to pass the ball this year.
3) managing too get a lead early we cannot get behind bye 14 points in this one or it is over yes brooks has awesome come from behind ratios but still.
It\'s not over but it\'s tougher becase then Seattle will ram Alexander down our defense\'s throats. By getting ahead you orce then into a passing game. On the other hand I think that Brooks and our receiving crew can make up 14 points pretty quickly if necessary.
4) give them a heavy dose of duece and if we have the lead make the clock tick and cause seattle too use all there timeouts bye making the clock tick.
Except if they get to 8 or 8.5 in the box to stop Deuce, then you play action and make them pay with points.


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5) brooks must not back peddle 15 yards than try too scrample he must have poise in the pocket if nothing is there throw it too the back coming out of the backfeild or one of his check downs such as maybe a tight end across the middle. Or throw it away or run with it if you see a lane don\'t get too far out of the pocket. No forcing throws if nothing is there duece is great coming out of the backfeild.
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I feel you there. Brooks still has the mindset that if he can establish a secondary pocket by scrambling that he can pull off the big play. I\'m with you in rather having Deuce out in the flat with a LB than Brooks trying to be a hero.

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