Is Antoine Winfield a better fit than Tracy Porter?
 

Larry Holder of the Times-Picayune spoke with Antoine Winfield’s agent, Ashanti Webb, a few weeks back and learned that Webb feels his client would be a good fit in New Orleans.

The numbers tell the same story.

According to Pro Football Focus, Porter ranked No. 102 in the NFL among cornerbacks that played at least 25 percent of their teams’ snaps in coverage. Porter was in coverage for eight snaps for every reception he allowed. Winfield ranked No. 52 allowing a reception for every 10.2 coverage snaps.

While that’s a huge difference, it’s not the mammoth statistical reason why Winfield’s more attractive than Porter.

When it comes to run stop percentage, a Pro Football Focus statistic that tackles on passing plays that go for a loss, no cornerback in the NFL last season had a better stop percentage that Winfield. Porter ranked 49th.

Anyone that watched a New Orleans game last season saw that tackling was as lost an art to the Saints as Hieroglyphics. Wouldn’t it be a better option to grab a cornerback that’s a top-notch tackler and a better cover corner?

Asomugha is still the sure-fire best option for the Saints, who need tons of help in their secondary. But if the Saints fail to nab him, Winfield should be “Plan B.”

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Re: Is Antoine Winfield is a better fit than Tracy Porter?
 

If that tackling stat is true then this is our answer even before Nnamdi.

Re: Is Antoine Winfield is a better fit than Tracy Porter?
 

Does Porter's experience with our team, albeit a different defense altogether, even factor into the equation? I tend to think it would make a pretty big difference.

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Agreed, still have to have an effective rush for any of it to work in the secondary no matter who is back there.

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I brought up the notion of getting Winfield in a thread about a week ago. I think as a nickel corner playing close to the D Line he will be an extreme improvement.

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I think 2 things going for Porter:

1) Superbowl hero nostalgia (sells tickets and merchandise too)
2) He probably comes at cut rate and the right price.

Porter simply did not fit well with the defensive scheme in Denver and we felt his loss after he was gone. He could easily return to the Saints and finish very strong. Also feel like Ryan is trying to develop a defense keen on the talents of his players and making it work. We'll see.

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I can not remember which fairly famous coach said the following, or exactly how the quote should go but it was something like this.

"If you plan on having a winning team, start building your nickel now."

The Saints are a high power, high scoring offense. This forces teams to start passing, more than the run we need to get our Nickle together.

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Yep, the nickel back is essentially a 12th starter.

I think Elbert Mack is a really good candidate for the NB role. I also think Greer or Robinson could excel at that also.

Tracy Porter struggled mightily when moved from boundary to nickel. He was turribul.

Re: Is Antoine Winfield is a better fit than Tracy Porter?
 

How about we play him at safety?

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Good move if we sign him.Then get his old teammate that goes by the name Randy Moss for a very low price.something like a win win win no matter what situation.lol fareal tho.Moss is still quietly a play maker and he block as well.just saying.

Re: Is Antoine Winfield is a better fit than Tracy Porter?
 

Porter isn't gettting love at all.

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Because there was a reason we let him go... And it wasn't the cap.

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That's all fine and dandy. Winfield is 35... I'd take him before Porter, at the right price, but not before Asomugha. He's a quality enough player in the short term, but not at all elite, and way too old to expect anything but regression. I think this would be a last resort.

Nnamdi is still young enough that he could return to form and actually be with us for more than a year.

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35 and counting, we can't be this desperate for corner help when there are still names out there not getting any love, micheal huff? ( mike Jenkins I don't think rob wants him though)

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I'll always love Porter!
I just don't like hiring someone for nostalgia's sake. If he can at least contribute in Dime packages I'm all for bringing him back (for vet's minimum.):p

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I love what Winfield brings to a defensive backfield, especially when it comes to his tackling - he is the best tackling CB in the league in my opinion.

But during the last two seasons, his downward curve has been apparent with the Vikes, and what has been even more troublesome is that his body doesn't seem to be able to accommodate his violent playing style any longer. He spend a lot of time in the tub during the past two seasons, and when he was on the field, he was often playing with a lingering injury which naturally negatively affected his performances.

He is/was a truly great CB, but I have my doubts whether he'd be the right pick for the Saints at this point in his career - love the guy though.

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Because we saw his play in 2011.

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Winfield is a short term gap filler. And he could be just what our ypoung corners need.
btw: Why haven't we resigned Mack?

Re: Is Antoine Winfield is a better fit than Tracy Porter?
 

either of these guys is kinda exciting to me.
You'll never convince me Tracy Porter cant contribute something good.

Re: Is Antoine Winfield is a better fit than Tracy Porter?
 

Seems like we could put either name here...

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Grimes from Atlanta is still there, I know he had the injury last year but if he recovers and can get him for a reasonable price, he's a younger Winfield. He can cover and definitely not afraid to tackle. Risk reward kinda thing.

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C'mon Mike, you don't remember 2011? He was worse than Patrick Robinson and Johnny Patrick in 2012.

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He'll be 36 before the season starts, but he did have 100 tackles and 3 INTs last season.

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I'm a better fit than Tracy Porter! A lot of people are hung up on this "he's a Super Bowl hero!" B.S. Drew Brees was the Super Bowl hero (MVP). Tracy made a hell of a play- ill give him that, but the last season he was here, I couldn't wait for him to go. I can't tell you how many times I lost my s#!t watching him "attempt" to tackle someone! If he wants to help us out,go play for the falcons.

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Tracy Porter - DB - Raiders

NEWS: Raiders signed CB Tracy Porter to a one-year contract.

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Re: Is Antoine Winfield a better fit than Tracy Porter?
 

He had his best year in 2009 when dennis allen was our CB coach, wish him the best but i'm glad we didnt sign him to be honest

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Winfield is old and potentially a coverage liability when it comes to speed receivers but the guy can sure tackle, something we haven't done well for a few years. I'd love him as a serviceable back up with limited snaps.

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Antoine Winfield is not a good fit for New Orleans...

He's amazing for his stat line and eagerness to tackle, I really like that in a player...

...but he's only 5' 9" and would not be as effective in press coverage as the defensive direction we're going...

Like Jabari Greer, good player, bad fit...

Re: Is Antoine Winfield a better fit than Tracy Porter?
 

Raiders signed Porter. Not much else to discuss lol

Re: Is Antoine Winfield a better fit than Tracy Porter?
 

He is now....