Go Back   New Orleans Saints - blackandgold.com > Main > Saints
Shop Horizontal

Saints Depth Chart 2013

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Seer1 So if Vilma, Hawthorne and Herring go, then who steps in there? No one, we'd be way over the cap....

Like Tree50Likes

Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-13-2013, 07:26 PM   #201
Site Donor 2014
Truth Addict
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Spanish Fort Alabama
Posts: 16,558
Re: Saints Depth Chart 2013

Originally Posted by Seer1 View Post
So if Vilma, Hawthorne and Herring go, then who steps in there?
No one, we'd be way over the cap.
Danno is online now  
Latest Blogs
MID TERM ELECTION Last Blog: 10-29-2014 By: teddybarexxx


2015 Saints Bye Week Draft Last Blog: 10-16-2014 By: hagan714


"IRONY" Last Blog: 10-01-2014 By: teddybarexxx


Old 06-14-2013, 07:26 AM   #202
Site Donor 2014
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Bayou Cane
Posts: 6,725
Blog Entries: 12
Re: Saints Depth Chart 2013

Originally Posted by TheOak View Post
What salary cap situation do you speak of? having 5.5M in reserve?
Well, yeah, that's less than 4.5% of the 2013 available salary cap...

That's not to take away from the good job of postponing the salary hits this year...

...but if we had to sign someone for this season, decide to release a player thus accelerating a cap hit, or extend a contract for a key player, that available space vanishes...

So I'd argue the salary cap situation is pretty tight...
jeanpierre is offline  
Old 06-14-2013, 07:44 AM   #203
10000 POST CLUB
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Cypress Tx.
Posts: 16,193
Re: Saints Depth Chart 2013

Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
Well, yeah, that's less than 4.5% of the 2013 available salary cap...

That's not to take away from the good job of postponing the salary hits this year...

...but if we had to sign someone for this season, decide to release a player thus accelerating a cap hit, or extend a contract for a key player, that available space vanishes...

So I'd argue the salary cap situation is pretty tight...
We only take a cap hit on cut players if they have bonus money associated with their contract.examples would be PT, DLP, who both have zero dead money associated with their contract.

extension example:
5 contracts can be extended with a 2013 value of 1M each and that would only open more cap space. You could restructure Strief in this way and gain 1M in cap space even with the 250k dead money acceleration.

Wallace or McCowan will be cut opening up near 1M. Cutting McCowan comes with a $65k dead money hit. Wallace yields a full 840k in cap space.

If you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes.

Like and vote https://www.facebook.com/pages/Charl...44287815781246
TheOak is offline  
Old 06-14-2013, 07:14 PM   #204
Site Donor 2014
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Bayou Cane
Posts: 6,725
Blog Entries: 12
Re: Saints Depth Chart 2013

Originally Posted by TheOak View Post
We only take a cap hit on cut players if they have bonus money associated with their contract.examples would be PT, DLP, who both have zero dead money associated with their contract.

extension example:
5 contracts can be extended with a 2013 value of 1M each and that would only open more cap space. You could restructure Strief in this way and gain 1M in cap space even with the 250k dead money acceleration.

Wallace or McCowan will be cut opening up near 1M. Cutting McCowan comes with a $65k dead money hit. Wallace yields a full 840k in cap space.
Oak, other than restructuring or trade, my point is we really have no cap flexibility to release players, add players, etc...
jeanpierre is offline  
Old 06-14-2013, 10:41 PM   #205
Site Donor
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Bayou Bayfield CO
Posts: 2,880
Re: Saints Depth Chart 2013

There's always Drew...
Seer1 is offline  
Old 06-15-2013, 03:23 AM   #206
10000 POST CLUB
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Cypress Tx.
Posts: 16,193
Re: Saints Depth Chart 2013

We are where I would expect us to be with a fully burdened camp roster and a #1 offense.

We are near middle of the pack on cap space.
http://overthecap.com/nfl-cap-space.php?Year=2013
TheOak is offline  
Old 06-15-2013, 03:54 AM   #207
Site Donor 2014
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Bayou Cane
Posts: 6,725
Blog Entries: 12
Re: Saints Depth Chart 2013

SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2013

OFFENSE

QB (2) Drew Brees, Luke McCown (FA), Seneca Wallace (FA), Ryan Griffin (UDFA)

FB (1) Jed Collins, Austin Johnson (FA)

RB (4) Pierre Thomas, Darren Sproles, Mark Ingram, Travaris Cadet, Khiry Robinson (UDFA)

WR (3) Marques Colston, Nick Toon, Courtney Roby, Chris Givens (FA), Jarred Fayson, Brent Leonard (UDFA)

LT (2) Charles Brown, Jason Smith (FA), Terron Armstead (R3)

LG (2) Ben Grubbs, Eric Olsen, Jerimiah Warren (FA), Tim Lelito (UDFA)

OC (1) Brian De La Puente, Elliot Mealer(UDFA)

RG (2) Jahri Evans, Andrew Tiller, Ricky Henry (FA)

RT (2) Zach Strief, Marcel Jones, Bryce Harris (FA)

TE (3) Jimmy Graham, Benjamin Watson (FA), Mike Higgins, Josh Hill (UDFA), Keavon Milton (UDFA)

FL (3) Lance Moore, Kenny Stills (R5), Saalim Hakim (FA), Andy Tanner, Preston Parker (FA), Joseph Morgan


DEFENSE

RDE (2) Cameron Jordan, Tom Johnson, Jay Richardson, Tyrunn Walker

NT (2) Brodrick Bunkley, John Jenkins (R3), Isaako Aaitui (FA)

LDE (2) Akiem Hicks, Kenyon Coleman (FA), Glenn Foster (UDFA)

SAM (3) Martez Wilson, Baraka Atkins (FA), Chase Thomas (UDFA), Victor Butler (FA)

MIKE (2) Curtis Lofton, Chris Chamberlain, Ramon Humber, Kevin Reddick (UDFA)

WILL (2) Jon Vilma, David Hawthorne, Will Herring, Austin Johnson, Eric Martin (UDFA)

JACK (2) Will Smith, Junior Galette, Rufus Johnson (R6), Ray Shipman (UDFA)

CB (3) Keenan Lewis, Corey White, AJ Davis (FA), Korey Lindsey (FA), Dion Turner (FA)

SS (2) Kenny Vaccaro (R1), Roman Harper, Isa Abdul-Quddus

FS (3) Malcolm Jenkins, Rafael Bush, Jim Leonhard (FA), Jerico Nelson

CB (2) Patrick Robinson, Jabari Greer, Rod Sweeting (UDFA), Ryan Steed (FA)


KICKING

PK (1) Garrett Hartley, Jose Maltos (UDFA)

P (1) Thomas Morstead

LS (1) Justin Drescher

PR Darren Sproles

KR Travaris Cadet, Darren Sproles

Key:

POS (#) Likely Slots

Incumbent Starter

Additions (Acquired Via)

Hot Seat

Injured

“Your best?!? Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home (with) the prom queen.” - Sean Connery in The Rock

Last edited by jeanpierre; 06-15-2013 at 04:53 AM..
jeanpierre is offline  
Old 06-15-2013, 11:14 PM   #208
LB Mentallity
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 10,425
Blog Entries: 40
Re: Saints Depth Chart 2013

MIKE (2) Curtis Lofton, Chris Chamberlain, Ramon Humber, Kevin Reddick (UDFA)

WILL (2) Jon Vilma, David Hawthorne, Will Herring, Austin Johnson, Eric Martin (UDFA)

This group really worries me. i hope they can the job since we did not get ILB in the draft or as a UNDFA. a whole bunch 43 MLB

If the group fail it could take 2 years to address.
hagan714 is offline  
Old 06-15-2013, 11:16 PM   #209
LB Mentallity
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 10,425
Blog Entries: 40
Re: Saints Depth Chart 2013

Chase Thomas might be the right move to ILB and let him get some experience there off and on this year. butlers injury may have just assured him a roster spot
hagan714 is offline  
Old 06-17-2013, 07:04 AM   #210
Site Donor 2014
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Bayou Cane
Posts: 6,725
Blog Entries: 12
Re: Saints Depth Chart 2013

Originally Posted by hagan714 View Post
MIKE (2) Curtis Lofton, Chris Chamberlain, Ramon Humber, Kevin Reddick (UDFA)

WILL (2) Jon Vilma, David Hawthorne, Will Herring, Austin Johnson, Eric Martin (UDFA)

This group really worries me. i hope they can the job since we did not get ILB in the draft or as a UNDFA. a whole bunch 43 MLB

If the group fail it could take 2 years to address.
I'm still sore about not drafting Ogletree - but, I'm on-board with Vacarro now and hoping he wins the Safety spot out-right so as to improve that facet of the defense...

But, Brother, keep your eyes on UDFA Kevin Reddick - he may be a year or two away, but it'll speak volumes if he makes the team as an active player this year playing special teams...

And also watch for UDFA Eric Martin, dude has one helluva motor...

But Thomas is definitely a 3-4 OLB, even if he doesn't have the 'measurables'; I'm eager to see Thomas and Rufus push at the OLB positions for the Saints...
K Major likes this.

“Your best?!? Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home (with) the prom queen.” - Sean Connery in The Rock
jeanpierre is offline  
Closed Thread

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules

LinkBacks (?)
LinkBack to this Thread: http://blackandgold.com/saints/56657-saints-depth-chart-2013-a.html
Posted By For Type Date Hits
The Latest Joseph Morgan News | SportSpyder This thread Refback 04-14-2013 01:25 AM 1
The Latest Saalim Hakim News | SportSpyder This thread Refback 04-13-2013 06:10 AM 1
The Latest Will Herring News | SportSpyder This thread Refback 04-02-2013 01:16 PM 1
The Latest Isa Abdul-Quddus News | SportSpyder This thread Refback 04-01-2013 12:43 PM 1
The Latest Greg Romeus News | SportSpyder This thread Refback 04-01-2013 11:55 AM 5
The Latest Chris Ivory News | SportSpyder This thread Refback 03-31-2013 04:53 AM 2
The Latest Brian De La Puente News | SportSpyder This thread Refback 03-30-2013 08:44 PM 2
The Latest Pierre Thomas News | SportSpyder This thread Refback 03-30-2013 11:40 AM 1
The Latest Ryan Lee News | SportSpyder This thread Refback 03-29-2013 10:04 PM 2
The Latest Nick Toon News | SportSpyder This thread Refback 03-29-2013 02:09 PM 3
The Latest Ramon Humber News | SportSpyder This thread Refback 03-29-2013 12:41 PM 6
The Latest New Orleans Saints News | SportSpyder This thread Refback 03-29-2013 12:37 PM 6
Saints Depth Chart 2013 | SportSpyder This thread Refback 03-29-2013 12:28 PM 1
The Latest Keenan Lewis News | SportSpyder This thread Refback 03-29-2013 12:21 PM 4
Saints Depth Chart 2013 This thread Refback 03-29-2013 11:41 AM 81


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:22 AM.


Copyright 1997 - 2013 - BlackandGold.com
no new posts