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dizzle88 04-10-2013 12:25 PM

NFC South Draft Needs
 
Nfl networks take on our issues and who we should draft to fix it

NFC South draft needs: Xavier Rhodes would cover Bucs at CB - NFL.com

The bit that makes me laugh is they say our wide receiver depth is poor?

Colston, moore, joe morgan, nick toon and we use jimmy graham and sproles as WR's

SaintnDE 04-10-2013 12:38 PM

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Well, I'd have to say Morgan and Toon are still really unkowns so to speak. Neither have had significant play time to really strut their stuff.

TheOak 04-10-2013 01:08 PM

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Rosenthal is an idiot and he proves it with each article.

The most powerful offense in the league that doesn't run the ball enough lacks depth at WR?

Anyway he says our "depth" is poor not talent, and our depth looks like this.

Moore
Morgan
Tanner
Colston
Toon
Givens
Parker
Hakim
Roby

Danno 04-10-2013 01:50 PM

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Only Moore and Colston are proven. The rest have a lot ofpotential.

I'd kinda agree that WR is a need, but I do like what I've seen from Morgan.

We're not as stout as Atlanta's top 3 WR's Julio, Roddy and Douglas.

triman 04-10-2013 01:55 PM

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Having Sproles, and J.Graham helps

Seer1 04-10-2013 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by triman (Post 493227)
Having Sproles, and J.Graham helps

Watson could end up being a pretty big contributor as well.

papz 04-10-2013 03:33 PM

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If Brandon Lloyd would take a prove it 1 year deal, I'd welcome him with open arms. Colston, Lloyd, Moore, Morgan looks much better than Colston, Moore, Morgan, Toon.

With that said, there are plenty of interesting upside wide receiver prospects that can be had in the middle rounds of the draft. There's also some veterans out there that could be had for the league minimum that could provide solid depth. Steve Breaston, Austin Collie, Early Doucet, Brandon Stokley, among others. Bring them in and if they aren't healthy or doesn't have any tread left on their tires, cut them... no biggie and move on.

It's an area of concern but it's a position that can easily be fixed both inexpensively and quickly.

dizzle88 04-10-2013 03:37 PM

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I wouldnt be suprised if greg camarillo gets called back, i like that guy and he came straight in and caught 5 passes his very first game for us

triman 04-10-2013 04:01 PM

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Late rd UDFA!

hagan714 04-10-2013 04:27 PM

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always said or depth at WR is over rated.

Seer1 04-10-2013 06:15 PM

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When you talk depth at WR, doesn't that mean how far down the field they can run before catching the ball?

D_it_up 04-10-2013 06:26 PM

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Past Colston and Moore, the Saints wide receivers are a bunch of unknowns and unprovens. I like what I see from Morgan as the deep threat to replace Devery. Toon is a question mark until he can stay healthy. Tanner looked impressive in preseason, but maybe there was a reason they kept bringing in Camarillo. I wouldn't be disappointed if the Saints drafted a WR somewhere along the way, especially if they traded down from the 15th pick.

Danno 04-10-2013 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by D_it_up (Post 493269)
Past Colston and Moore, the Saints wide receivers are a bunch of unknowns and unprovens.

Agreed. We have some cast-offs and some UDFA guys with potential, but nothing that says we're OK from #3WR and on.

Drafting either of the top 2 WR's would not surprise me in the least.

D_it_up 04-10-2013 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 493273)
Agreed. We have some cast-offs and some UDFA guys with potential, but nothing that says we're OK from #3WR and on.

Drafting either of the top 2 WR's would not surprise me in the least.


Indeed. Not to mention that Colston and Moore both are entering their 8th season this year and will both be 30 years old. I think drafting Toon and keeping around Morgan is helping infuse some youth to prepare for the future without Colston and Moore, but adding another young guy with stud potential wouldn't be a far-fetched idea.

papz 04-10-2013 07:11 PM

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Rogers is a virtual Julio Jones clone, exhibiting an exciting combination of size, strength and explosiveness.
He signed with Tennessee as one of the most highly regarded prep prospects in the entire country, and immediately showed off his versatility, racking up 167 yards as a receiver and 117 yards as a runner (reverses, etc.).

Rogers was expected to serve as the complementary piece to Justin Hunter in 2011, but stepped up once his teammate was injured and went on to lead the SEC with 1,040 receiving yards in 2011. He eclipsed the 100-yard mark in six games, one short of a Tennessee record, and earned First Team All-SEC honors by the media and league coaches.

While there are plenty of traits about Rogers scouts will love, one they must be concerned about is Rogers' accountability on and off the field. For violating team rules, Rogers was suspended indefinitely by Tennessee coach Derek Dooley on Aug. 23 and ultimately transferred to Tennessee Tech.

"We're excited to have him and look forward to working with him," Tech coach Watson Brown said Aug. 27. "It's a unique situation for me, but we know he's a good kid. He knows a couple of the players on our team, and we know his high school coach, and we're going on their recommendations.

"After meeting with Da'Rick and his family, I can see what everybody is saying about him," Brown added. "We've met with Da'Rick and he understands our expectations."

Rogers played in all 11 games for Tennessee Tech in 2012, and was the man among boys he was expected to be, leading the team with 61 catches for 893 yards and 10 touchdowns. No one else on the roster had more than 28 receptions, and Rogers put up his staggering numbers despite every opponent game-planning to contain him.

Character red-flags galore, but undeniably an elite talent.

Da’Rick Rogers, WR, Tennessee Tech, NFL Draft - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com

He has some character concerns but for a mid round pick with a ton of upside, he's who I've been looking at throughout the draft process. Given the coaching and leadership on our team, he's someone I'm very interested in.

D_it_up 04-10-2013 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by papz (Post 493279)
Rogers is a virtual Julio Jones clone, exhibiting an exciting combination of size, strength and explosiveness.
He signed with Tennessee as one of the most highly regarded prep prospects in the entire country, and immediately showed off his versatility, racking up 167 yards as a receiver and 117 yards as a runner (reverses, etc.).

Rogers was expected to serve as the complementary piece to Justin Hunter in 2011, but stepped up once his teammate was injured and went on to lead the SEC with 1,040 receiving yards in 2011. He eclipsed the 100-yard mark in six games, one short of a Tennessee record, and earned First Team All-SEC honors by the media and league coaches.

While there are plenty of traits about Rogers scouts will love, one they must be concerned about is Rogers' accountability on and off the field. For violating team rules, Rogers was suspended indefinitely by Tennessee coach Derek Dooley on Aug. 23 and ultimately transferred to Tennessee Tech.

"We're excited to have him and look forward to working with him," Tech coach Watson Brown said Aug. 27. "It's a unique situation for me, but we know he's a good kid. He knows a couple of the players on our team, and we know his high school coach, and we're going on their recommendations.

"After meeting with Da'Rick and his family, I can see what everybody is saying about him," Brown added. "We've met with Da'Rick and he understands our expectations."

Rogers played in all 11 games for Tennessee Tech in 2012, and was the man among boys he was expected to be, leading the team with 61 catches for 893 yards and 10 touchdowns. No one else on the roster had more than 28 receptions, and Rogers put up his staggering numbers despite every opponent game-planning to contain him.

Character red-flags galore, but undeniably an elite talent.

Da’Rick Rogers, WR, Tennessee Tech, NFL Draft - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com

He has some character concerns but for a mid round pick with a ton of upside, he's who I've been looking at throughout the draft process. Given the coaching and leadership on our team, he's someone I'm very interested in.

Da'Rick Rogers has been on my radar recently, too. I've been keeping an eye on Quinton Patton out of Louisiana Tech, too, as a 3rd rounder or possibly late 2nd rounder if we trade pick for more picks.

papz 04-10-2013 07:26 PM

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He's a quality prospect also whom I like. The only thing with Patton for me is that I think he develops into a good WR2... which is great. However I like Rogers more due to his potential to develop into a legitimate WR1 and he could be had a little later.

Rugby Saint II 04-10-2013 07:33 PM

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Nothing would surprise me........Payton likes his toys.

BlackandBlue 04-10-2013 07:43 PM

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With the proliferation of the spread offense in high school and college, the ability to draft quality recievers in the later rounds has been on the rise the past few years. Based on this group, I trust Peyton's evaluation of recievers, running backs, and interior linemen.

When Peyton says the LT position keeps him up at night, that leads me to believe he's sending a message (and rightfully so) as to what position they'll be targeting in the draft.

papz 04-10-2013 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackandBlue (Post 493288)
With the proliferation of the spread offense in high school and college, the ability to draft quality recievers in the later rounds has been on the rise the past few years. Based on this group, I trust Peyton's evaluation of recievers, running backs, and interior linemen.

When Peyton says the LT position keeps him up at night, that leads me to believe he's sending a message (and rightfully so) as to what position they'll be targeting in the draft.

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Oh hi there buddy.

BlackandBlue 04-10-2013 07:55 PM

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Hello old friend.

How you living?

papz 04-10-2013 07:57 PM

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I'm good BnB... hope you stick around. Mark and I was wondering if you were alive or not. :p

BlackandBlue 04-10-2013 08:27 PM

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I'll be around, though not with the frequency I once was...

I see you and Danno are holding down the fort. Anyone else from the old guard?

papz 04-10-2013 08:33 PM

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Good mix of old and new. The names will gradually become more familiar as your memory comes back. :cool:

D_it_up 04-10-2013 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackandBlue (Post 493288)
With the proliferation of the spread offense in high school and college, the ability to draft quality recievers in the later rounds has been on the rise the past few years. Based on this group, I trust Peyton's evaluation of recievers, running backs, and interior linemen.

When Peyton says the LT position keeps him up at night, that leads me to believe he's sending a message (and rightfully so) as to what position they'll be targeting in the draft.

B-n-B? The ol' Tech SAE comes home to roost? Cheers, buddy. Long time no see.

BlackandBlue 04-10-2013 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by papz (Post 493296)
Good mix of old and new. The names will gradually become more familiar as your memory comes back. :cool:

Lulz... You're giving me far too much credit. I can't remember what i was doing last week.

D_it_up still trollin? :p

Glad to see you, bro... Still hitting on the college chicks in Ruston? Does it give sads when they point out your grey hair? :cool:

D_it_up 04-10-2013 09:46 PM

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[QUOTE=BlackandBlue;493302
D_it_up still trollin? :p

Glad to see you, bro... Still hitting on the college chicks in Ruston? Does it give sads when they point out your grey hair? :cool:[/QUOTE]

Bahahahaha! You should have seen it when I was in going back to Tech in my early 30's. College chicks LOVE older guys! hahaha!

Luda34 04-10-2013 10:17 PM

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Last year coming out of the preson all I keep hearing was Roby was having the best preson than WR on the team I'm just wondering if he would get a chance to what can do at wide out.

Danno 04-11-2013 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Luda34 (Post 493306)
Last year coming out of the preson all I keep hearing was Roby was having the best preson than WR on the team I'm just wondering if he would get a chance to what can do at wide out.

I remember that, and he did absolutely nothing as a WR on our team.

hagan714 04-11-2013 08:52 PM

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hey BnB good to see ya

BlackandBlue 04-11-2013 11:35 PM

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hagan... my dude, you know this defense is as soft as string cheese up the middle, from front to back, right? I'll give Lofton some credit, but has he ever played the 3-4?

homerj07 04-15-2013 08:15 PM

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Drew makes any 1/2 way decent WR look really good

hagan714 04-15-2013 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackandBlue (Post 493553)
hagan... my dude, you know this defense is as soft as string cheese up the middle, from front to back, right? I'll give Lofton some credit, but has he ever played the 3-4?

good to see you around again. welcome home :saintsfan:

i agree. in the draft we need beef and a player or two with sand in the pants at NT. first and foremost.

The switch to a 34 will take a few years.

This team will get back to the playoffs with offense and that now needs to be our #1 priority. The OL has to be the priority

do not risk drew for the sake of the defense. So i can live with 2 or 3 picks in the draft on offense to protect him and give him another player to dump the ball off to.


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