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TreyThomas 04-11-2013 07:44 PM

Kenny Vaccaro
 

Good Lord... Can we please draft this guy??? PLEASE?!?!?!

hagan714 04-11-2013 08:45 PM

Re: Kenny Vaccaro
 
i wish he had better hands. thats the only thing neg about him lol

SS

Euphoria 04-11-2013 08:51 PM

Re: Kenny Vaccaro
 
yeah but he knew where the ball was going.

AllSaints 04-11-2013 09:27 PM

Re: Kenny Vaccaro
 
I hope we draft this guy ! Man he would be a huge addition to the secondary ! and a huge upgrade ! C'mon Saints draft him !

Danno 04-11-2013 09:31 PM

Re: Kenny Vaccaro
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AllSaints (Post 493536)
I hope we draft this guy ! Man he would be a huge addition to the secondary ! and a huge upgrade ! C'mon Saints draft him !

At 15? He looks promising but a safety at 15 better be the 2nd coming of Ed Reed or Troy Polomalu. I don't see it in him.

AllSaints 04-11-2013 09:39 PM

Re: Kenny Vaccaro
 
Well 15 may be a reach for him but If we happened to trade back I wouldn't mind the pick.....

frydaddy 04-11-2013 09:52 PM

Re: Kenny Vaccaro
 
He and Jarvis Jones are the two guys I really would love to see in black and gold next year.. and I'd almost rather KV because safeties like him don't come around too often, whereas pass rushers come up on a pretty regular basis.

TreyThomas 04-11-2013 10:21 PM

Re: Kenny Vaccaro
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 493537)
At 15? He looks promising but a safety at 15 better be the 2nd coming of Ed Reed or Troy Polomalu. I don't see it in him.

Can't be any worse than our picks that have been around this pick, or higher. :roll:

RockyMountainSaint 04-11-2013 10:22 PM

Re: Kenny Vaccaro
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by frydaddy (Post 493539)
pass rushers come up on a pretty regular basis.

Someone please clue our scouts in to this info.

amazin15 04-11-2013 11:15 PM

Re: Kenny Vaccaro
 
would rather trade back and get Eric Reid in the late 2nd or early 3rd

Luda34 04-12-2013 12:24 AM

Re: Kenny Vaccaro
 
I would draft him and cut Harper the same day

ClintSaints 04-12-2013 12:31 AM

Re: Kenny Vaccaro
 
Looks very good. I'd be curious to know what Polamalu's or Ed Reed's measurables were. He certainly would be a very large step up from what we have (it would seem).

frydaddy 04-12-2013 12:32 AM

Re: Kenny Vaccaro
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint (Post 493544)
Someone please clue our scouts in to this info.

I hear ya man. That's actually what excited me most about switching to the 3-4. Most of the good ones are the tweener OLB types. They should have made the switch a few years ago IMO

lee909 04-12-2013 01:19 AM

Re: Kenny Vaccaro
 
Id rather get Jonathan Cyprien,Eric Reid or D.J. Swearinger later on

burningmetal 04-12-2013 05:12 AM

Re: Kenny Vaccaro
 
I don't see why some believe Vaccaro would be a reach. Based on what? There are other players who I'd gladly take, as well, but if we draft this guy I will not be one bit upset.

Whether or not he turns out to be the second coming of Reed, Sharper or Polamalu is not something you can predict. You draft the best player at whatever position you're looking to address, and whatever happens, happens. I challenge anyone to present evidence that there is a better safety, or DB in general, in this class.

TreyThomas 04-12-2013 07:05 AM

Re: Kenny Vaccaro
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 493580)
I don't see why some believe Vaccaro would be a reach. Based on what? There are other players who I'd gladly take, as well, but if we draft this guy I will not be one bit upset.

Whether or not he turns out to be the second coming of Reed, Sharper or Polamalu is not something you can predict. You draft the best player at whatever position you're looking to address, and whatever happens, happens. I challenge anyone to present evidence that there is a better safety, or DB in general, in this class.

And also, we DID pick Malcolm Jenkins at pick #14. A cornerback. Would be nice to draft a true safety to meet our need. Vaccaro fills a position of need and he's the best safety in the draft. Why the hell not???

And I mean really, we HAVE to score big on a first round pick sometime soon, right? This is the year!

jeanpierre 04-12-2013 07:16 AM

Re: Kenny Vaccaro
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Luda34 (Post 493554)
I would draft him and cut Harper the same day

I would just cut Harper...

...so he can hang out with his friend Sedrick and hit on Applebee's waitresses while discussing their "foundations"...

AllSaints 04-12-2013 07:19 AM

Re: Kenny Vaccaro
 
I just think the kid is going to be a beast of a player ala ed reed .... I would hate to see us pass up on him...

Danno 04-12-2013 08:00 AM

Re: Kenny Vaccaro
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 493580)
I don't see why some believe Vaccaro would be a reach. Based on what? There are other players who I'd gladly take, as well, but if we draft this guy I will not be one bit upset.

Whether or not he turns out to be the second coming of Reed, Sharper or Polamalu is not something you can predict. You draft the best player at whatever position you're looking to address, and whatever happens, happens. I challenge anyone to present evidence that there is a better safety, or DB in general, in this class.

Dee Milliner and Xavier Rhodes, but I see your point. Two years from now will anyone really care if Vacarro was picked 15th, instead of around 20th, where the "so called" experts projected him?

I think there are probably better choices at 15, but I wouldn't cry about it if we picked him. I think he's gonna be a good player. I'd prefer one of the top DE/DT/OLB or WR's, but he'd be a good pick for us.

burningmetal 04-12-2013 08:26 AM

Re: Kenny Vaccaro
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 493623)
Dee Milliner and Xavier Rhodes, but I see your point. Two years from now will anyone really care if Vacarro was picked 15th, instead of around 20th, where the "so called" experts projected him?

I think there are probably better choices at 15, but I wouldn't cry about it if we picked him. I think he's gonna be a good player. I'd prefer one of the top DE/DT/OLB or WR's, but he'd be a good pick for us.

Yeah, I'd like to have Jarvis Jones or the less experienced -but incredibly talented- Ezekiel Ansah, because I'm really itching for a pass rush.

But I'm starting to think neither of them (especially Jones) will be there. So In my opinion, Vaccaro stands as the next greatest impact player at a position of need for us. Milliner and Rhodes are good cover guys, but I like the package of cover ability and top-tier tackling skills of Vaccaro. Plus, we've already invested in a corner with Keenan Lewis, otherwise I wouldn't object to drafting a guy Like Rhodes who figures to be available. I personally have not seen a DB who has shown me more than Vaccaro, regardless of draft position.

But yeah, I don't think anyone will care where we pick anybody years from now, as long as they get the job done.

hagan714 04-12-2013 10:11 AM

Re: Kenny Vaccaro
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Luda34 (Post 493554)
I would draft him and cut Harper the same day

i guess you miss the cap hit thread.

hagan714 04-12-2013 10:13 AM

Re: Kenny Vaccaro
 
i have as great trade down bait if he falls to us

Rugby Saint II 04-12-2013 01:16 PM

Re: Kenny Vaccaro
 
I've soured on him a little bit lately. He seems like he will be good but what we need in the secondary is an immediate play maker like Sharper. Trade down if possible if that is my only other option.

Cruize 04-12-2013 01:44 PM

Re: Kenny Vaccaro
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 493537)
At 15? He looks promising but a safety at 15 better be the 2nd coming of Ed Reed or Troy Polomalu. I don't see it in him.

The Saints need a starter at #15. If that's an OT, OLB, CB, NT, DE, WR or S, then so be it. The staff just needs to hit with the pick.

blackangold 04-12-2013 02:33 PM

Re: Kenny Vaccaro
 
would rather have
Could be a great SS... wouldn't mind any of the top 3 Safeties

blackangold 04-12-2013 02:44 PM

Re: Kenny Vaccaro
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 493660)
i guess you miss the cap hit thread.

still saves 3.6 mil this year... I wouldn't mind paying Harper 3.6 mil to stay at home

Danno 04-12-2013 02:59 PM

Re: Kenny Vaccaro
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 493740)
would rather have The Supreme Jonathan Cyprien Highlights - YouTube

Could be a great SS... would mind any of the top 3 Safeties

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 493746)
still saves 3.6 mil this year... I would mind paying Harper 3.6 mil to stay at home

Would mind or wouldn't mind?

blackangold 04-12-2013 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 493750)
Would mind or wouldn't mind?

Edited*

Amazing how I managed to do that in two separate posts!

Seer1 04-12-2013 09:46 PM

Re: Kenny Vaccaro
 
How much dead money is tied to Harper if we hold onto him this year and cut him the next?

homerj07 04-13-2013 12:10 AM

Re: Kenny Vaccaro
 
Trade back later in 1st & pickup a second rnd pick as well

Danno 04-13-2013 09:30 AM

Re: Kenny Vaccaro
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 493846)
How much dead money is tied to Harper if we hold onto him this year and cut him the next?

2014 - 1.9 million in dead money.

Base salary, 6.0 million
Cap hit, 7.9 million

Cut would free up 4 million.

Barry from MS 04-13-2013 11:26 AM

Re: Kenny Vaccaro
 
I don't know about this dude. Things like "multiple petty arrests" and showing up at the Combine out of shape after skipping the Senior Bowl are big ol' RED FLAGS for my taste. High risk, high reward. Given our 1st round woes of the past decade, though, I would not be in the least surprised if we actually DID pick this guy up with our 15th...

lee909 04-13-2013 11:46 AM

Re: Kenny Vaccaro
 
Trade back and get this man and another would be better imo



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