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Rugby Saint II 04-12-2013 12:53 PM

Training Camp Battles
 
This will be the most competitive training camp since GW arrived and we won the Superbowl. There is some competition on offense between left tackle and wide receiver........we may see some stiff competition at right tackle as well. :duel:

On the defensive side of the ball there is competition at almost every position. Defensive end with Cam Jordan is pretty much a lock but beyond that every spot on defense is up for grabs.........we don't even know where Lofton will line up.
We've actually got a signifant amount of talent on the defensive side of the ball that could be ready to hit the ground running.

I'm most excited to see the line backing competition with this switch to a 3-4. What training camp battle are you most excited to see? :popcorn:

Papa Voodoo 04-12-2013 01:05 PM

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Running back too. Ingram better get busy.

Danno 04-12-2013 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 493709)
This will be the most competitive training camp since GW arrived and we won the Superbowl. There is some competition on offense between left tackle and wide receiver........we may see some stiff competition at right tackle as well. :duel:

On the defensive side of the ball there is competition at almost every position. Defensive end with Cam Jordan is pretty much a lock but beyond that every spot on defense is up for grabs.........we don't even know where Lofton will line up.
We've actually got a signifant amount of talent on the defensive side of the ball that could be ready to hit the ground running.

I'm most excited to see the line backing competition with this switch to a 3-4. What training camp battle are you most excited to see? :popcorn:

Robinson versus Greer for the #2 CB

The Nickel CB

The WOLB (Galette, Wilson, Butler or Draft Pick)

I'm also interested in who plays where. We have 4 LB's that could play 3 or more positions. Who's our starting 4, and at what position?

Will Hicks be a back-up DT or start at DE?

Rugby Saint II 04-12-2013 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 493718)
Robinson versus Greer for the #2 CB

The Nickel CB

The WOLB (Galette, Wilson, Butler or Draft Pick)

I'm also interested in who plays where. We have 4 LB's that could play 3 or more positions. Who's our starting 4, and at what position?

Will Hicks be a back-up DT or start at DE?

Those are some really great questions.

papz 04-12-2013 01:18 PM

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DE opposite Jordan. Will it be Hicks or Smith? Can Johnson sneak up and claim the spot? Are we going to be loyal to the vets on the team or are we going to let the best man win?

I just hope our position battles are all on an even keel regardless of age and experience.

The Dude 04-12-2013 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 493709)
This will be the most competitive training camp since GW arrived and we won the Superbowl. There is some competition on offense between left tackle and wide receiver........we may see some stiff competition at right tackle as well. :duel:

On the defensive side of the ball there is competition at almost every position. Defensive end with Cam Jordan is pretty much a lock but beyond that every spot on defense is up for grabs.........we don't even know where Lofton will line up.
We've actually got a signifant amount of talent on the defensive side of the ball that could be ready to hit the ground running.

I'm most excited to see the line backing competition with this switch to a 3-4. What training camp battle are you most excited to see? :popcorn:

With the exception of Keenan I don't see any more talent on that side of the ball than we had last year. Gonna love to see the competition at WR though.

Danno 04-12-2013 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 493751)
With the exception of Keenan I don't see any more talent on that side of the ball than we had last year.

Huh? I don't think you can discount players changing to a defensive scheme that better suits their talents.

Galette and Wilson are probably much better talent wise in a 3-4 than a 4-3.

Bunkley graded out as one of the best 3-4 NT in the NFL 2 years ago.

Most scouts thought Jordan was a much better fit as a 3-4 DE than a 4-3 DE.

All of our CB's are better suited for a man scheme than a zone scheme.

Butler is probably a better rush backer than anyone we had on our team.



Vilma and Hawthorne are now healthy.

blackangold 04-12-2013 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by papz (Post 493722)
DE opposite Jordan. Will it be Hicks or Smith? Can Johnson sneak up and claim the spot? Are we going to be loyal to the vets on the team or are we going to let the best man win?

I just hope our position battles are all on an even keel regardless of age and experience.

This

I really hope we don't favor some players due to their length with the organization (Smith vs Hicks).

The Dude 04-12-2013 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 493754)
Huh? I don't think you can discount players changing to a defensive scheme that better suits their talents.

Galette and Wilson are probably much better talent wise in a 3-4 than a 4-3.

Bunkley graded out as one of the best 3-4 NT in the NFL 2 years ago.

Most scouts thought Jordan was a much better fit as a 3-4 DE than a 4-3 DE.

All of our CB's are better suited for a man scheme than a zone scheme.

Butler is probably a better rush backer than anyone we had on our team.



Vilma and Hawthorne are now healthy.

These players have the exact same amount of talent they had last year, not taking into the equation that they progress due to experience. Like you said the scheme has changed, not the talent.

K Major 04-12-2013 03:23 PM

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With the implementation of the 3-4, I expect the Big Lebowski to put players in better postion to succeed much like he did in Dallas & will not hesitate to 'light a fire' or introduce you to the bench if you can't produce regardless of tenure.

This years training camp should be interesting.

Danno 04-12-2013 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 493757)
These players have the exact same amount of talent they had last year, not taking into the equation that they progress due to experience. Like you said the scheme has changed, not the talent.

Well using that philosophy the only talent changes will be via free-agent signings.

With the additions of Lewis, Butler, Coleman and Leonhard there are probably 30 teams that haven't improved as much talent wise as we have so I'm not getting your point.

NonieT 04-12-2013 07:06 PM

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The RT tackle spot. Man I hope someone can outplay Streif.

Luda34 04-15-2013 11:47 PM

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Brees and Wallace

SaintnDE 04-16-2013 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Luda34 (Post 494584)
Brees and Wallace

silly, silly man!

Seer1 04-16-2013 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Luda34 (Post 494584)
Brees and Wallace

Haha, don't forget McKown's in the mix too! Seriously though, I like that Coleman's name was mentioned. Don't be too quick to discount his rather large presence when talking about the front four -oops three.

kannon315 04-16-2013 09:35 AM

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Battles I'll be watching
Defense
#2 CB Greer vs. Robinson
DE Smith vs. Coleman vs. Hicks
NT Bunkley vs. Hicks
#2 ILB Hawthorne vs. Vilma
OLB Butler vs. Wilson vs. Gallette

Offense
#3 WR Toon vs. Morgan
OT Smith vs. Brown
#2 QB Wallace vs. McCown

All that before the draft! Should be interesting!

foreverfan 04-16-2013 10:39 AM

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I'll leave position competition up to Payton.... It's the off-season, so I'm studying the cheerleader competitions. :doh:

http://prod.images.redskins.clubs.nf...960&height=720

SaintsBro 04-16-2013 11:10 AM

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I want to see some pressure put on Garrett Hartley in camp. I think Jason Hanson could be a great addition, to fill that Carney/Kasay role of kicker-waiting-on-the-couch to come in, when Hartley screws up, and have him either jump in and take over or else coach him up a little bit. Hanson would be ideal for that "pushing him and mentoring" role, like Carney did when Hartley was actually kicking his best.

TheGambler 04-16-2013 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 494647)
I want to see some pressure put on Garrett Hartley in camp. I think Jason Hanson could be a great addition, to fill that Carney/Kasay role of kicker-waiting-on-the-couch to come in, when Hartley screws up, and have him either jump in and take over or else coach him up a little bit. Hanson would be ideal for that "pushing him and mentoring" role, like Carney did when Hartley was actually kicking his best.

You're aware that Jason Hason retired, right? And stated that he's had heel problems.

SaintsBro 04-16-2013 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGambler (Post 494681)
You're aware that Jason Hason retired, right? And stated that he's had heel problems.

Did not know about the heel problems. I knew he'd retired, but figured that retired kickers (without heel problems) can un-retire pretty quick if they get a call with the right offer, while they're on the couch. The reason I liked him was because, other than the emo freakshow of Hartley, Payton does tend to like older kickers, there is some precedent there.

Seer1 04-16-2013 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 494643)
I'll leave position competition up to Payton.... It's the off-season, so I'm studying the cheerleader competitions. :doh:

http://prod.images.redskins.clubs.nf...960&height=720

I have nothing to say. I just thought this picture needed to be here a second time.

homerj07 04-16-2013 08:17 PM

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There will be blood. Let the best man win

homerj07 04-16-2013 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 494643)
I'll leave position competition up to Payton.... It's the off-season, so I'm studying the cheerleader competitions. :doh:

http://prod.images.redskins.clubs.nf...960&height=720


I'd buy that for a dollar!! :lolup:

foreverfan 04-16-2013 09:06 PM

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I wonder what position she'll start at... TE or WR? :saintsfan:

http://www.lowbird.com/data/images/2...-post2-106.jpg

Seer1 04-16-2013 09:36 PM

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Definitely not offensive...


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