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Old 04-13-2013, 12:26 PM   #11
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Who wrote this ****, a Clowns fan? Waste a draft pick on a guy who thinks football is kicking someone else's balls while wearing short shorts? Tebow? Really? Might be okay at TE or RB, but we're pretty flush at those positions. Can he play SS or NT? Te'No, nuff said. Revis- at minimum with a a boatload of performance clauses. How much did Matty Brown Spot and Smith pay this guy?
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Old 04-13-2013, 02:05 PM   #12
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Re: Big Gambles for the Saints to Consider

1. Not a bad move.

2. Tebow doesn't fit this team. He would be a poor fit for a back-up QB because he could not run the offense with his skill-set which would require a complete reworking of the offense. And when Brees is the QB, why would you create packages that take him off the field? It doesn't make sense.

3. Te'o is not a 3-4 LB. Under the old 4-3, he's a fit. He isn't the type of player who will typically excell in 3-4.

4. Revis is a great player, but it would cost the Saints the first pick in this draft and maybe more. Maybe the first plus Ivory gets it done, but the Jets probably would want more. Also, I'm not sure the Saints have the cap room to satisfy a contract for Revis even if they could trade for him.
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Re: Big Gambles for the Saints to Consider

ok read it
went to can an thought about it
flushed it all away
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Old 04-13-2013, 04:52 PM   #14
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Re: Big Gambles for the Saints to Consider

•Lawrence Okoye? Who? Spend a draft pick on someone who has never played football? What is this guy smoking? At best, sign him to a practice squad ala Brock Lesner. What's next? Should start scouting sumo wrestlers for our offensive line? Just because one's an athlete, doesn't make them a football player.

•Tim Tebow? Last I checked, we were a passing offense. We so do not need the extra publicity having him on our roster. Heaven forbid Drew has a bad game and we start having a bunch of wackos clamoring for Tebow. His cult following is very strong.

•Manti T'eo may wind up becoming a good football player, but mercy... how stupid is he really? How would he react to a fake reverse? How confident are would we be in him reading a play action pass? Fake punt? Fumblerooski?

•Darelle Revis. Not only does he suck up a ton of money, it'll cost us at least 2 draft picks. So instead of potentially picking up 4 solid players(through free agency and draft), we get a great CB who's coming off a major injury. Pass.
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Old 04-13-2013, 05:18 PM   #15
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Wow there's some pretty aggressive opinion here!

As for Okoye, sure he has good measurables but has never played football. If we're talking about a 6th or 7th round pick, how many times do you genuinely land anyone worth remembering there anyway? Take a chance I say. It's hardly going to set the franchise back years is it!

I still don't understand the general dislike of Tebow. Sure he doesn't fit our offence. Does he really fit an offence out there? All I am saying is if you give a chess piece like that to Sean Payton, it gives him options even if he doesn't use it. I wouldn't waste a load of money on him nor give away any picks, but having him on the roster doesn't seem so terrible to me. Also if Brees goes down, you're saying you would rather have McCown see the game out? I'd rather stick Roman Harper in there and tell him to air it out!
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Old 04-13-2013, 05:24 PM   #16
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Wow there's some pretty aggressive opinion here!

As for Okoye, sure he has good measurables but has never played football. If we're talking about a 6th or 7th round pick, how many times do you genuinely land anyone worth remembering there anyway? Take a chance I say. It's hardly going to set the franchise back years is it!
The thing here is that he's talking about a mid round pick... not a late round gamble. Big difference.

I still don't understand the general dislike of Tebow. Sure he doesn't fit our offence. Does he really fit an offence out there? All I am saying is if you give a chess piece like that to Sean Payton, it gives him options even if he doesn't use it. I wouldn't waste a load of money on him nor give away any picks, but having him on the roster doesn't seem so terrible to me. Also if Brees goes down, you're saying you would rather have McCown see the game out? I'd rather stick Roman Harper in there and tell him to air it out!
I mean if we brought Tebow here to play H-back, I could be okay with that. It would certainly be interesting to say the least. Now if we're bring him in here to play quarterback, I think all our skilled position players on offense would suffer from depression should anything ever happen to Drew.
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Old 04-13-2013, 05:38 PM   #17
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Re: Big Gambles for the Saints to Consider

1. Sure why not.
2. Getting silly now.
3. Closer to rational but still short a few brain cells.
4. Clinically dead. Brain no longer functions.
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Old 04-13-2013, 05:57 PM   #18
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OKOYE IS COOL
TEBOW IS A PREACHER NOT A FOOTBALL QB
NO WAY WE GET A MEDIA DISTRACTION LIKE TEO he isn't a top 15 talent and isn't there in the 3rd rd! So no way!
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Old 04-13-2013, 07:10 PM   #19
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The thing here is that he's talking about a mid round pick... not a late round gamble. Big difference.



I mean if we brought Tebow here to play H-back, I could be okay with that. It would certainly be interesting to say the least. Now if we're bring him in here to play quarterback, I think all our skilled position players on offense would suffer from depression should anything ever happen to Drew.
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Wow there's some pretty aggressive opinion here!

As for Okoye, sure he has good measurables but has never played football. If we're talking about a 6th or 7th round pick, how many times do you genuinely land anyone worth remembering there anyway? Take a chance I say. It's hardly going to set the franchise back years is it!

I still don't understand the general dislike of Tebow. Sure he doesn't fit our offence. Does he really fit an offence out there? All I am saying is if you give a chess piece like that to Sean Payton, it gives him options even if he doesn't use it. I wouldn't waste a load of money on him nor give away any picks, but having him on the roster doesn't seem so terrible to me. Also if Brees goes down, you're saying you would rather have McCown see the game out? I'd rather stick Roman Harper in there and tell him to air it out!
Tebow doesn't really give you any options worth having. If Tebow is on the team, then you have two ways to use him. One way is to have him and Brees on the field at the same time. The other is to use him in the place of Brees. The first option is designed to fool defenses, but it's only effective if Tebow is used behind center in some fashion at least enough for teams to think it's a threat. If not, then Tebow is in the place of a RB or TE which the Saints have personel better suited for those roles. If Tebow lines up under center and Brees goes out wide, etc you give teams a chance to take free hits on Brees since he isn't a QB in that formation and no way in hell do we want teams taking those.

In the second scenario, why on earth would we ever want Tebow to take snaps away from Brees? Especially since there's no way he could run the Saints verticle style offense which means practice time would have to be wasted on a gimmick.
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Re: Big Gambles for the Saints to Consider

All Tim Tebow does is win and do good, all people do is hate and crucify him..... Reminds me of a guy in a well published book....naaa I'm not gonna say it
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