Drew Brees might’ve spilled beans on Chris Ivory trade

lee909 · 04-25-2013, 07:24 AM

Hes better than Harper imo,his salary demands cant be that high with the lack interest so far.Im just putting suggestions out there.There are options there if we could do a deal.

Danno · 04-25-2013, 08:35 AM

My guess is that the Jets are gonna pull the trigger only if they get the guys they want at 9 and 13. Or something of that sort.

thebdj · 04-25-2013, 08:53 AM

Jets will not likely want to move out of the #9 or #13 spot as they will have 2 shots at solid picks to help rebuild a truly disastrous team. To move from #13 to #15 and acquire Chris Ivory would be a dream come true for them and frankly offers us very little in return. I doubt there will be someone 2 spots ahead we need to make that trade for.

I am confident we will be looking to trade down for the right price and if the right price doesn't materialise then we will hit into someone like Jarvis Jones or Barkevious Mingo. Kenny Vaccaro is also an option in this spot.

Danno · 04-25-2013, 09:12 AM

Originally Posted by thebdj

Jets will not likely want to move out of the #9 or #13 spot as they will have 2 shots at solid picks to help rebuild a truly disastrous team. To move from #13 to #15 and acquire Chris Ivory would be a dream come true for them and frankly offers us very little in return. I doubt there will be someone 2 spots ahead we need to make that trade for.

Hmmm, maybe we give them Ivory and we get the 5th they originally offered and get to move up 2 spots jumping Carolina and pick Floyd or Richardson?

Shoe. · 04-25-2013, 09:38 AM

Saints @ 1.15 has a value of 1050 points, plus Chris Ivory

Jets @ 1.13 = 1150 points and at 5.8 = 39.5 pts, total value 1st plus 5th = 1189.5 pts

Difference between us is 139.5 pts, which would essentially be giving Ivory a low 3rd value.

I don't think the Jets put that high of a value on him, as much as I want them to

BUT

without the fifth rounder thrown in, the difference is only 100 pts, giving Ivory a value of a high 4th rounder, which maybe the Jets WILL go for

Danno · 04-25-2013, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by Shoe.

Saints @ 1.15 has a value of 1050 points, plus Chris Ivory

Jets @ 1.13 = 1150 points and at 5.8 = 39.5 pts, total value 1st plus 5th = 1189.5 pts

Difference between us is 139.5 pts, which would essentially be giving Ivory a low 3rd value.

I don't think the Jets put that high of a value on him, as much as I want them to

BUT

without the fifth rounder thrown in, the difference is only 100 pts, giving Ivory a value of a high 4th rounder, which maybe the Jets WILL go for

Good stuff, although I question the accuracy of the value chart now that draft picks are cheap. But its all we have to go buy until another one is created.

Being that its a trade-up market the Jets may actually throw in that 5th. (oops, the offer was a 6th instead)

Danno · 04-25-2013, 10:03 AM

I think Lane Johnson may be the guy we want, but we're gonna need to jump to 9 to get him.

voodooido · 04-25-2013, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by Seer1

How much of an upgrade would Woodson really be once we figure in the salary he'd be asking for?

A hot pocket would be better than Harper

hagan714 · 04-25-2013, 10:11 AM

take your pick

42 Abdul-Quddus, Isa S 6-1 220 23 3 Fordham
25 Bush, Rafael S 5-11 200 25 3 South Carolina State
41 Harper, Roman S 6-1 200 30 8 Alabama
27 Jenkins, Malcolm S 6-0 204 25 5 Ohio State
36 Leonhard, Jim S 5-8 188 30 9 Wisconsin
37 Nelson, Jerico S 5-10 216 23 1 Arkansas

look some where along the way to this 34 transition we wil have to take our lumps for a season or or two. then you also have the draft and there are some good options to take a risk pick on after the second round,

lee909 · 04-25-2013, 10:15 AM

If we could trade back what about sorting both tackle positions with Fluker and Faulk?.
We can manage at RT but the chance to have the whole O-Line under contract for the foreseeable future.

04-25-2013, 07:24 AM	#11
lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,716 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Drew Brees might’ve spilled beans on Chris Ivory trade Hes better than Harper imo,his salary demands cant be that high with the lack interest so far.Im just putting suggestions out there.There are options there if we could do a deal.

04-25-2013, 08:35 AM	#12
Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Re: Drew Brees might’ve spilled beans on Chris Ivory trade My guess is that the Jets are gonna pull the trigger only if they get the guys they want at 9 and 13. Or something of that sort.

04-25-2013, 09:12 AM	#14
Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Re: Drew Brees might’ve spilled beans on Chris Ivory trade Originally Posted by thebdj Jets will not likely want to move out of the #9 or #13 spot as they will have 2 shots at solid picks to help rebuild a truly disastrous team. To move from #13 to #15 and acquire Chris Ivory would be a dream come true for them and frankly offers us very little in return. I doubt there will be someone 2 spots ahead we need to make that trade for. Hmmm, maybe we give them Ivory and we get the 5th they originally offered and get to move up 2 spots jumping Carolina and pick Floyd or Richardson? saintsfan1976 and darksoul35 like this.

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Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Re: Drew Brees might’ve spilled beans on Chris Ivory trade Originally Posted by Shoe. Saints @ 1.15 has a value of 1050 points, plus Chris Ivory Jets @ 1.13 = 1150 points and at 5.8 = 39.5 pts, total value 1st plus 5th = 1189.5 pts Difference between us is 139.5 pts, which would essentially be giving Ivory a low 3rd value. I don't think the Jets put that high of a value on him, as much as I want them to BUT without the fifth rounder thrown in, the difference is only 100 pts, giving Ivory a value of a high 4th rounder, which maybe the Jets WILL go for Good stuff, although I question the accuracy of the value chart now that draft picks are cheap. But its all we have to go buy until another one is created. Being that its a trade-up market the Jets may actually throw in that 5th. (oops, the offer was a 6th instead)

04-25-2013, 10:03 AM	#17
Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Re: Drew Brees might’ve spilled beans on Chris Ivory trade I think Lane Johnson may be the guy we want, but we're gonna need to jump to 9 to get him.

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04-25-2013, 10:15 AM	#20
lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,716 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Drew Brees might’ve spilled beans on Chris Ivory trade If we could trade back what about sorting both tackle positions with Fluker and Faulk?. We can manage at RT but the chance to have the whole O-Line under contract for the foreseeable future.

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