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WhoDat!656 04-25-2013 04:57 AM

Drew Brees might’ve spilled beans on Chris Ivory trade
 
Drew Brees: Super Bowl winning quarterback, restauranteur, and … scoopster? It appears to be the case.

During a video interview with NOLA.com, Brees presumably let the cat out of the bag, quasi-confirming that the Saints have traded running back Chris Ivory to the Jets.

“I’ve heard [the trade] has happened, with the Jets,” he said, before backpedaling. “But I’m not entirely sure. I haven’t read it anywhere, I just kind of heard it.”

Rumors connecting Ivory to the Jets have run rampant following the 25-year-old’s visit to the Big Apple earlier this month. On Tuesday, Saints GM Mickey Loomis admitted Ivory is indeed on the trade block, but that no deal is imminent.

New Orleans is reportedly intent on receiving a fourth-round pick in return for the bruising back, whereas Gang Green supposedly only wants to surrender a fifth. The Jets are Ivory’s only known suitor.

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hagan714 04-25-2013 05:06 AM

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lmao we will find out on draft day. could the saint be sending ivory and the 15th pick to the jets for the #13? i always love jumping ahead of a division foe

Crusader 04-25-2013 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 496758)
lmao we will find out on draft day. could the saint be sending ivory and the 15th pick to the jets for the #13? i always love jumping ahead of a division foe

But for what? What would the true value be in picking 2 spots earlier when so many players grade out prety much the same. Unless of course its a guy we really really want and think will be gone by 15 by not by 13.

lee909 04-25-2013 06:03 AM

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Jump the Panthers for Star

Swap the 15th Ivory + late future for Lane Johnson if he falls to the Jets 9th.

hagan714 04-25-2013 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 496769)
Jump the Panthers for Star

Swap the 15th Ivory + late future for Lane Johnson if he falls to the Jets 9th.

how about send harper and keep that future pick or at least reduce it? it also would clear the cap issues we have this year and next.

Supertek 04-25-2013 06:42 AM

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Hagan's ideal is great I wish I could see that happen not sure why they have not done something to get rid of Harper and his big hit on the cap. Unless he has agree to a big reduction already.

lee909 04-25-2013 06:47 AM

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The Jets need help at Safety so Ryan might like a blitzing safety if he agrees a restructured deal.

By later pick I was talking 4/5th.

Seer1 04-25-2013 07:06 AM

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Who takes Harper's place?

lee909 04-25-2013 07:10 AM

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We have Leonard and can draft Cyprian/McDonald/Rambo
Or the option would be there to sign Charles Woodson with the cap space saved

Seer1 04-25-2013 07:20 AM

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How much of an upgrade would Woodson really be once we figure in the salary he'd be asking for?

lee909 04-25-2013 07:24 AM

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Hes better than Harper imo,his salary demands cant be that high with the lack interest so far.Im just putting suggestions out there.There are options there if we could do a deal.

Danno 04-25-2013 08:35 AM

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My guess is that the Jets are gonna pull the trigger only if they get the guys they want at 9 and 13. Or something of that sort.

thebdj 04-25-2013 08:53 AM

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Jets will not likely want to move out of the #9 or #13 spot as they will have 2 shots at solid picks to help rebuild a truly disastrous team. To move from #13 to #15 and acquire Chris Ivory would be a dream come true for them and frankly offers us very little in return. I doubt there will be someone 2 spots ahead we need to make that trade for.

I am confident we will be looking to trade down for the right price and if the right price doesn't materialise then we will hit into someone like Jarvis Jones or Barkevious Mingo. Kenny Vaccaro is also an option in this spot.

Danno 04-25-2013 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by thebdj (Post 496808)
Jets will not likely want to move out of the #9 or #13 spot as they will have 2 shots at solid picks to help rebuild a truly disastrous team. To move from #13 to #15 and acquire Chris Ivory would be a dream come true for them and frankly offers us very little in return. I doubt there will be someone 2 spots ahead we need to make that trade for.

Hmmm, maybe we give them Ivory and we get the 5th they originally offered and get to move up 2 spots jumping Carolina and pick Floyd or Richardson?

Shoe. 04-25-2013 09:38 AM

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Saints @ 1.15 has a value of 1050 points, plus Chris Ivory

Jets @ 1.13 = 1150 points and at 5.8 = 39.5 pts, total value 1st plus 5th = 1189.5 pts

Difference between us is 139.5 pts, which would essentially be giving Ivory a low 3rd value.

I don't think the Jets put that high of a value on him, as much as I want them to

BUT

without the fifth rounder thrown in, the difference is only 100 pts, giving Ivory a value of a high 4th rounder, which maybe the Jets WILL go for

Danno 04-25-2013 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Shoe. (Post 496820)
Saints @ 1.15 has a value of 1050 points, plus Chris Ivory

Jets @ 1.13 = 1150 points and at 5.8 = 39.5 pts, total value 1st plus 5th = 1189.5 pts

Difference between us is 139.5 pts, which would essentially be giving Ivory a low 3rd value.

I don't think the Jets put that high of a value on him, as much as I want them to

BUT

without the fifth rounder thrown in, the difference is only 100 pts, giving Ivory a value of a high 4th rounder, which maybe the Jets WILL go for

Good stuff, although I question the accuracy of the value chart now that draft picks are cheap. But its all we have to go buy until another one is created.

Being that its a trade-up market the Jets may actually throw in that 5th. (oops, the offer was a 6th instead)

Danno 04-25-2013 10:03 AM

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I think Lane Johnson may be the guy we want, but we're gonna need to jump to 9 to get him.

voodooido 04-25-2013 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 496785)
How much of an upgrade would Woodson really be once we figure in the salary he'd be asking for?

A hot pocket would be better than Harper

hagan714 04-25-2013 10:11 AM

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take your pick

42 Abdul-Quddus, Isa S 6-1 220 23 3 Fordham
25 Bush, Rafael S 5-11 200 25 3 South Carolina State
41 Harper, Roman S 6-1 200 30 8 Alabama
27 Jenkins, Malcolm S 6-0 204 25 5 Ohio State
36 Leonhard, Jim S 5-8 188 30 9 Wisconsin
37 Nelson, Jerico S 5-10 216 23 1 Arkansas

look some where along the way to this 34 transition we wil have to take our lumps for a season or or two. then you also have the draft and there are some good options to take a risk pick on after the second round,

lee909 04-25-2013 10:15 AM

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If we could trade back what about sorting both tackle positions with Fluker and Faulk?.
We can manage at RT but the chance to have the whole O-Line under contract for the foreseeable future.

hagan714 04-25-2013 10:17 AM

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package harper our 15 to kc for Albert and picks. there is another option.

then trade ivory for the 5th from the jets

NuNu318 04-25-2013 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 496828)
package harper our 15 to kc for Albert and picks. there is another option.

then trade ivory for the 5th from the jets

And how exactly are we going to pay Albert. He wants top 5 LT money even if we were to negotiate his longterm contract instead of paying him the Franchise tage money this yr which is 9.5mil.

Harper frees up 6-7mil and we have like a mil or 2 in cap space.....bu how are we going to pay the other draft picks?

homerj07 04-25-2013 10:42 AM

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ARRR to much uncertainty!! Just draft well DARN IT!!!

Seer1 04-25-2013 11:21 AM

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Throwing out Harper questions today. If he's so bad, why does he keep leading the team in tackles? (Did Lofton pass him up last year?) Why hasn't he been cut yet? Even with some dead money issues, wouldn't that have still saved us some $$$? If he's so bad, who is gonna want to trade for him? Could it be that Rob has a plan for him? -They have their Wildcat offense, we have our Neck defense? Maybe he gets rejuvenated under Rob? Not in love with the guy or anything, just trying to get through to draft time...

Danno 04-25-2013 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 496838)
Throwing out Harper questions today. If he's so bad, why does he keep leading the team in tackles? (Did Lofton pass him up last year?) Why hasn't he been cut yet? Even with some dead money issues, wouldn't that have still saved us some $$$? If he's so bad, who is gonna want to trade for him? Could it be that Rob has a plan for him? -They have their Wildcat offense, we have our Neck defense? Maybe he gets rejuvenated under Rob? Not in love with the guy or anything, just trying to get through to draft time...

He's overpaid.
He was signed as a crucial player in Gregg Williams' defense.
He's not nearly as bad as many think.
He plays Strong Safety.
He covers like a Strong Safety.
He's not a CB or a FS or a LB.
He has hands of stone, which may be insulting to some stones.
He fits best with a team that uses a traditional SS/FS set-up.
He plays great within 15 yards from the LOS, as do most SS's.
If we cut him he'd be unemployed less than 2 weeks.
At his salary he's probably not gonna draw much trade interest.
He blows very few plays every year, but when he does its ugly.

hagan714 04-25-2013 11:40 AM

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no harper is not on my hit list at all. i am just looking at options that not only free cap but helps get players to fill a void in the draft

depending on the contract the Albert really wants is another story. i know his stand with KC and i think its kinda of a broken nose if KC goes for an OT an want him to play RT cutting his contract demands for next year. Now i am guessing if he is traded to a team like new orleans he might be a little more open to being flexible with his contract. so maybe harper for albert would be a wash

yes hand grenades and horse shoes going on here

Seer1 04-25-2013 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 496840)
He's overpaid.

He has hands of stone, which may be insulting to some stones.

Hahahahaha!


He blows very few plays every year, but when he does its ugly.

We had a whole lot of ugly last year!

Danno 04-25-2013 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 496843)
We had a whole lot of ugly last year at every position!

FIFY!

Rugby Saint II 04-25-2013 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 496826)
If we could trade back what about sorting both tackle positions with Fluker and Faulk?.
We can manage at RT but the chance to have the whole O-Line under contract for the foreseeable future.

I don't think we can aford to go that direction. We are too porous on defense and need to use our limited draft picks to bring in guys who fit RR scheme.


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