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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Cruize . No impact in free agency and no impact from the draft. No impact in free agency;Really? I thought being strapped for cash we did quite well, Lewis & Butler... And Vaccaro can play as a ...

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Old 04-25-2013, 11:31 PM   #71
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. No impact in free agency and no impact from the draft.
No impact in free agency;Really? I thought being strapped for cash we did quite well, Lewis & Butler...

And Vaccaro can play as a CB and both safety positions, not to mention he is a great ST guy. Versatility...
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Old 04-25-2013, 11:33 PM   #72
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Re: New Orleans Saints select Texas safety Kenny Vaccaro with the 15th pick

While I respect everyone's right to their opinion wether it's right or wrong (only time will tell) consider this. For the pessimist's on this pick, the defense, or lack of it, that was the 2012 Saints can't get any worse. We went 7-9 with that defense and should have won 2-3 more games which would have meant 9-7 or even 10-6. Having said that, this defense only needs to improve some to get us back to the playoffs and with the offense clicking on all cylinders as we know it can and even a slightly improved defense next year we will be there. I like the pick and I think it was a step in the right direction in improving the defense. JMO
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Old 04-25-2013, 11:37 PM   #73
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Re: New Orleans Saints select Texas safety Kenny Vaccaro with the 15th pick

With slot receivers and tight ends always getting thrown to in a pass happy league, I'm glad we picked Vacarro. We need a safety who cover those players man-to-man. If Vicarro does a good job of that it will make our defense more versatile.
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Old 04-25-2013, 11:49 PM   #74
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And comparing Vaccaro to Jenkins is just stupid. Vaccaro is a safety. Always has been a safety, always will be a safety. Jenkins was a corner moved to safety. These are two different positions entirely, and not every player has the instinct to play safety. Jenkins lack of interceptions is not his problem. Hell, I'd be happy if he were anywhere close to the ball just to swat it down.
Since this obvious is a response to my post, I think it's stupid you think it's stupid. And what position is Jenkins playing now? They both have the flexibility to cover receivers and tight ends. I'm also not overly concerned about neither player's ability to get an INT. He's also been compared to All Pro Eric Weddle. Is that stupid too? Eric Weddle was a CB/FS hybrid when he was drafted. Since when was it so stupid to compare players who play the same position? Genius.

Read this smarty pants.

WEAKNESSES Used extensively in man coverage and around the line, must continue improving as a reliable back-half defender against the pass and last line of defense against long runs. One-speed player who lacks burst. Is not quite agile or fast enough to stick with better NFL receivers, backpedal is high and stiff, can be out-quicked in space, and loses a step running down the seam. Can get caught freelancing and watching the backfield in zone coverage, and will bite on play action. Knee injury ended his senior season in high school after three games. Can fill downhill out of control, losing his leverage on the ball carrier and missing tackles. Doesn’t always take good angles and is prone to running himself too far upfield when he’s the “force” defender.

Now if you take your defensive blinders off, think about it. Does this not sound similar to Jenkins? Hell they even tackle alike. Go look at his reel. Go get a hand rag and take your aggression out somewhere else.



And just in case you missed it, I'm more than okay with the Vaccaro pick and was so throughout the process. I did not compare him to Jenkins as an insult... as I think the world of Jenkins' ability. I think Vaccaro can be just as good as Jenkins when he flashed his potential a few years ago. Which means, I think Vaccaro can be an All Pro type safety. Hopefully he'll be more consistent than Jenkins and fulfill his potential.

The nerve.

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege.

All little common sense goes a long way.

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Old 04-26-2013, 12:04 AM   #75
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to papz comments!!! LOL

I am warming up to Mr. Vaccaro, and not because he's 6'2.... lol but because he can flat out ball.

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Old 04-26-2013, 02:03 AM   #76
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Re: New Orleans Saints select Texas safety Kenny Vaccaro with the 15th pick

I wasn't really crazy about this pick at first, would have liked Reid more (I'm a homer, I know) or maybe Jones but the rest of the first round was guys we didn't really need. Jordan, Mingo and the OT's worthy of a 1st round pick were allready gone.

IMHO what this pick does is give us more flexibility on the back end of the defence. I think Harper will stay at SS, he is a good tackler and is improving in coverage every year, yeah he struggles against the big, fast freaks at TE, but so does everybody else. Jenkins is the guy I think wil be moved around. He was a really good CB allthou not a really fast one, I think we will se him play a lot in the nickle this year and thats where I think he can make a lot of plays. Or it might be the opposit, Jenkins stay in his spots and we hav Vaccaro in the nickel.

I like the reports of the guy having fluid hips, thats important when you have to turn and run with guys and are trying to locate the ball in the air. His 4,63 in the forty is comaparable to that of Ed Reed (4,57), Jerry Rice (4,71), Dashon Goldson (4,60) and the list goes on. Taylor Mays ran a 4,4 at the combine and was supposed to become the next great saftey in the NFL but he was stiff and immobile and couldn't play for ****. Its much mor important to have a guy with ok speed that is mobile and has a good head on his shoulders.

And for you people whining about the passrush, a lousy coverage kills the rush because the QB can just throw it to the open guy. Lock everybody down on the back end and the DL and LBs rushing will have a field day.

Welcome to the Saints Mr. Vaccaro!

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Re: New Orleans Saints select Texas safety Kenny Vaccaro with the 15th pick

Anyone remember Alex Molden? (Shivers). He was SUPPOSED to be a shut down corner we picked in the first round.... Never shut down anything! You NEVER know.... I like this kid...
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I'm not complaining about this pick. Hell I like it! We need an upgrade at Safety and we got it. I have a feeling this kid is gonna be great!
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Competition in training camp is going to be very interesting, Lets hope he can make an immediate impact

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