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Old 04-26-2013, 08:17 AM   #1
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First-round winners, losers

3. The New Orleans Saints and Pittsburgh Steelers: Both 3-4 defenses caught a break. The Saints could have used a pass-rushing linebacker for their new 3-4 defense, but they also needed a safety who can make plays. Kenny Vaccaro of Texas is a perfect player for their defense. He's versatile enough to cover slot receivers, talented enough to match up against tight ends and tall receivers and smart enough to sit back at free safety and intercept passes. The Saints also had the option of drafting linebacker Jarvis Jones from Georgia, but they let him fall to the Steelers at No. 17. With James Harrison now in Cincinnati, Pittsburgh needed a pass-rushing linebacker. As the round was going, the Steelers worried that neither Vaccaro nor Jones would fall to them. The Rams gave them a break by trading up for Austin. The Steelers thought the Rams could have taken Vaccaro at No. 16, leading to the Saints to taking Jones. Jones has the ability to be an impact rookie for the Steelers, something they desperately need.

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the Steelers worried that neither Vaccaro nor Jones would fall to them. The Rams gave them a break by trading up for Austin. The Steelers thought the Rams could have taken Vaccaro at No. 16,
I am sure more than one team wanted him and i know the phones were ringing. he was perfect trade bait for us. i hope we were right this time for a change with our first round pick. odds are in our favor. we can not tank it that many times in the first round without one working out. only the raiders probably have a worse draft history in round one lol'

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I can't give us better than a C+ so far. We need so much help on defense and offense, in my opinion, and needed to trade down.
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I can't give us better than a C+ so far. We need so much help on defense and offense, in my opinion, and needed to trade down.
I'm sure Sean Payton is second guessing himself now...
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I have no problem with the pick.
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The Steelers thought the Rams could have taken Vaccaro at No. 16, leading to the Saints to taking Jones. Jones has the ability to be an impact rookie for the Steelers, something they desperately need.

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This makes no sense. If the Saints chose before the rams, how is it possible that the ram's selection could force any decision by the Saints?

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I'm sure Sean Payton is second guessing himself now...
He probably should. We haven't drafted particularly well in the first round.
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I can't give us better than a C+ so far. We need so much help on defense and offense, in my opinion, and needed to trade down.
By help are you talking one man that can play 4 spots or 4 warm bodies for 2 spots?
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By help are you talking one man that can play 4 spots or 4 warm bodies for 2 spots?
10 bodies that can play 15 spots.
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10 bodies that can play 15 spots.
You cant afford 10.... you can afford 4-5 at most and drafting a bunch of players that may start in two seasons is not going to help us now.


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