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filaphill 04-26-2013 08:40 PM

Saints move up to get John Jenkins
 
Who did they trade to get Jenkins.

QBREES9 04-26-2013 08:47 PM

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UM, will see.

filaphill 04-26-2013 08:47 PM

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Rumor is the Saints traded their 2014 2nd rd pick to Dallas to move up into the 3rd. Can anybody confirm this.

QBREES9 04-26-2013 08:47 PM

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Where did you hear that ?

rmgoris11 04-26-2013 08:51 PM

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Ivory for 4th.. Both 4ths to miami for their 3rd

Marlboro Man 04-26-2013 08:56 PM

Re: Saints move up to get John Jenkins
 
Who is John Jenkins?

filaphill 04-26-2013 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Marlboro Man (Post 498193)
Who is John Jenkins?

350 lbs NT from UGA. He`s pretty good.

filaphill 04-26-2013 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by rmgoris11 (Post 498178)
Ivory for 4th.. Both 4ths to miami for their 3rd

It`s confirmed on NFL.com thats exactly what happened. So essentially we traded Ivory and this years 4th rd pick to move up in the 3rd to get John Jenkins.

Luda34 04-26-2013 09:03 PM

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Damn my boys gone.

QBREES9 04-26-2013 09:18 PM

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this kid better be good.

hagan714 04-26-2013 09:47 PM

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John Jenkins, NT, Georgia

cost us three players not a smart move with all the talent that is still on the board.

pinch 04-26-2013 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 498298)
John Jenkins, NT, Georgia

cost us three players not a smart move with all the talent that is still on the board.

Well really only 2 right? Ivory for the 4th was an even swap, then we added another 4th rounder to move up to the 3rd.

SaintnDE 04-26-2013 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 498298)
John Jenkins, NT, Georgia

cost us three players not a smart move with all the talent that is still on the board.

Ivory was a liability...he was hurt more than healthy...I don't understand you ppl and afraid of the trade. We needed to plug this position and this was the best POSITION PLAYER for that. I think it's a GREAT and BALLSY move by our FO.

hagan714 04-26-2013 10:10 PM

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Ivory is gone
Jets fourth is gone
our fourth is gone

that is how i count it

SaintnDE 04-26-2013 10:11 PM

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Here is the math for the slow people:

The Saints traded RB Chris Ivory to the New York Jets for pick 106. The Saints then traded picks 106 and 109 to the Miami Dolphins for the 82nd pick to draft Georgia’s DT John Jenkins

Get it? Got it? Good.

Seer1 04-26-2013 10:12 PM

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Sounds like a bit of a project. Has a huge upside as well as being just plain huge. If he can get some decent DL coaching (Did we get a new DL coach this year? We should have.) he should be able to spell Bunkley and let Hicks go crazy on the end. Still would have rather had Brandon Williams, but I'm okay with JJ for now and resting a bit easier with the Vaccaro pick.

Okay, so far a safety, an OT and an NT. Where are we going next?

SaintnDE 04-26-2013 10:14 PM

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My guess, Seer1, after all the D we just picked...Sean will be grabbing a WR.

Seer1 04-26-2013 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintnDE (Post 498322)
My guess, Seer1, after all the D we just picked...Sean will be grabbing a WR.

There's also that Tulane QB.

hagan714 04-26-2013 10:18 PM

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OL OT/TE ILB OLB DE CB. there are some nice ones late to take a risk on. this is a very deep draft. on that can load up back ups with

with ivory gone they may go rb in late. i am betting UDFA here

developmental QB i would be very surprised since we brought two in already but i trust our offense brain trust much more than the defensive ones right now.

SaintnDE 04-26-2013 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 498328)
blocking TE and CB

developmental QB i would be very surprised since we brought two in already but i trust our offense brain trust much more than the defensive ones right now.

I think that's why we grabbed Watson TE, no?

lee909 04-26-2013 10:20 PM

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With the lack of QB taken that Tulane QB could well be a UFA.If so bring him in a let him fight Wallace or McGowan off for the job

SaintnDE 04-26-2013 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 498332)
With the lack of QB taken that Tulane QB could well be a UFA.If so bring him in a let him fight Wallace or McGowan off for the job

I feel you there, but we need another speedster for down field...aka Devery. Before you jump my ****, Morgan had a couple of nice catches, yes, but he's no way proven in my book. I'd like to see another one come into camp to pressure him and Nick Toon for that spot. UFA or not.

hagan714 04-26-2013 10:23 PM

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Watson is long in the tooth and if you can get a young TE that blocks like an OT and catch a bit to develop is say go for it.

ie Michael Williams, TE/OT, Alabama

Seer1 04-26-2013 10:24 PM

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I haven't seen the kid play, but there are some members here who have and are really high on him. I'm pretty good with things for now. Any chance we still go after an OLB?

lee909 04-26-2013 10:25 PM

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Alex Okafor, DE, Texas
Height: 6-4. Weight: 261. Arm: 33 1/8. Hand: 9.
Projected 40 Time: 4.73.
Projected Round (2013): 2-3.
4/24/13: Okafor had a good senior season and was a consistent pass-rusher. His job got harder after Jackson Jeffcoat went out for the season with a torn pectoral, but Okafor remained productive. The senior totaled 54 tackles, 12.5 sacks, 16.5 tackles for a loss, four forced fumbles, a blocked kick and a pass batted in 2012.

Okafor performed well at the Senior Bowl. He started out the week on fire before cooling down some. Oklahoma offensive tackle Lane Johnson told WalterFootball.com that Okafor was the best pass-rusher he went against in college; NFL teams value that kind of feedback.

Okafor went out with a bang this season as he dominated Oregon State with 4.5 sacks, eight tackles, 5.5 tackles for a loss and a forced fumble. Okafor came close to a few other sacks and set up his teammates to sack the quarterback. He was dominating the right tackle with speed rushes and bull rushes.

Johnson and Oklahoma held Okafor in check, and it was his worst game of the season. However, he was Texas' best defensive lineman and a more consistent producer of splash plays than teammate Jackson Jeffcoat was. Okafor beats offensive tackles with speed, strength and a repertoire of pass-rushing moves.

Okafor made two massive plays to help his team almost pull out a win against West Virginia. He beat the right tackle with a speed rush just before halftime, dropped his shoulder to get leverage and planted Geno Smith on his back. The hit forced the ball out and Jackson Jeffcoat recovered it just over the goal line for a Longhorns' touchdown.

In the fourth quarter with Texas down by three, Okafor made a game-changing play. He bull-rushed the right tackle straight into Smith. Okafor reached out while falling to the ground and slapped the ball out of Smith's hand. The Longhorns recovered the ball at West Virginia's 12-yard line, but they missed their field goal attempt. Okafor also registered a blocked kick in the game and a number of other pressures on Smith.

8/27/12: Okafor was one of the top defensive ends in the Big XII in 2011. He was a First-Team All-Big XII selection. Okafor totaled 58 tackles with 14 tackles for a loss, seven sacks, three passes batted and two forced fumbles. He had 2.5 sacks as a sophomore in 2010.

Like Jeffcoat, Okafor has a nice skill set with speed and physicality. Plus, he is adept at getting upfield and is a disruptive rusher. Okafor is very solid as a run defender. He holds his ground at the point of attack and does not get pushed around.

The Longhorns have lined Okafor up in a variety of places. He has done a lot of stand-up edge rushing over the tackle as well as blitzing over interior linemen as a linebacker. Okafor definitely has the length and athleticism to be an outside linebacker in a 3-4 defense.

Okafor should be primed for a big season and could be an early-round pick. He will get plenty of opportunities to rush the passer given the passing-driven nature of the Big XII. With teammate Jackson Jeffcoat on the other side of the line, Okafor should still see plenty of one-on-one pass-rushing opportunities.



Chase Thomas, OLB, Stanford
Height: 6-3. Weight: 244. Arm: 31 1/8. Hand: 9 1/2.
40 Time: 4.91.
Projected Round (2013): 3-4.
4/24/13: Thomas is short on size, speed and athleticism. However he's a good football player and could be a nice value pick.

Thomas ended the year with 71 tackles, 14.5 tackles for a loss, one interception and 7.5 sacks for Stanford. His sack against USC came at a critical time to help seal the Cardinal's upset win. He played really well against Notre Dame even though the stat sheet didn't reflect it.

The redshirt senior placed a lot more pressure on the quarterback than the sack numbers indicate. Thomas was quiet as a pass-rusher for some time before totaling four sacks in the final two regular-season games against UCLA.

Though Thomas has the flexibility to play inside linebacker, he thrives blitzing off the edge and combines good physical skills with intelligence. Thomas has a knack for causing turnovers. He had some struggles as a 4-3 outside linebacker at the Senior Bowl and that continued to be seen in the Combine drills. Thomas had a slow time in the 40-yard dash. He could use some development in the NFL.

hagan714 04-26-2013 10:25 PM

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ok hijacking the thread sorry

lee909 04-26-2013 10:26 PM

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Me too,ill take it elsewhere

Seer1 04-26-2013 10:32 PM

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Yeah, we were just trying to pick Jenkins' roommate for him...

TheOak 04-26-2013 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintnDE (Post 498318)
Here is the math for the slow people:

The Saints traded RB Chris Ivory to the New York Jets for pick 106. The Saints then traded picks 106 and 109 to the Miami Dolphins for the 82nd pick to draft Georgia’s DT John Jenkins

Get it? Got it? Good.

Now that I can see the entire equation it's clear. I was missing a few things...

SmashMouth 04-26-2013 10:43 PM

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Will they use Jenkins like Dikta did the Fridge Perry? Can you even imagine something like that?

hagan714 04-26-2013 10:44 PM

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lmao oh god you did not go there smash gesshhh

then again he might get those short yardage third downs we could not pick up all of last year hmmmmm

SmashMouth 04-26-2013 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 498361)
lmao oh god you did not go there smash gesshhh

then again he might get those short yardage third downs we could not pick up all of last year hmmmmm

That would be AWESOME! Talk about some serious play action....

hagan714 04-26-2013 10:49 PM

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god knows i need to roflma tonight after that trade. thank smash i need it

Seer1 04-26-2013 10:51 PM

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Oh ho, there goes Tokyo,
Ga, Ga, Ga, Godzilla!

SaintnDE 04-26-2013 11:04 PM

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When God made women, he must have been thinking of they other 98% of the people here other than myself and a couple of others that have opinions that don't fly out of their nose and land in their laps :)

Thank God for county music or you all would be fragg'd by now :)

Crusader 04-27-2013 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 498325)
There's also that Tulane QB.

He might be an UDFA with Barkley and Nassib still on the board.

FinSaint 04-27-2013 05:18 AM

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It's sad to see Ivory depart, since he always ran with attitude and was a nice small school UDFA story.

But the RB position was one of the only positions with abundance of quality depth - as SP stated in the presser - and Ivory was entering a 1-yr $2M contract along with becoming an UFA next offseason. This was a good move since they were able to get that mountain of a NT we had discussed they needed to add, they also freed up $2M in cap space and were able to get something in return for Ivory which wouldn't have been the case next offseason.

And in any case, I'm happy for Ivory since now he'll have an honest shot of being the #1 RB on a team, which is something that would never had happened with the Saints. He probably is relieved to know that he won't be spending another year wearing street clothes on the sidelines while the years he has left in the league keep counting down. I wish him all the best, but being that he was traded to the Jets; the only thing he can look forward to is individual success.

Crusader 04-27-2013 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 498467)
It's sad to see Ivory depart, since he always ran with attitude and was a nice small school UDFA story.

But the RB position was one of the only positions with abundance of quality depth - as SP stated in the presser - and Ivory was entering a 1-yr $2M contract along with becoming an UFA next offseason. This was a good move since they were able to get that mountain of a NT we had discussed they needed to add, they also freed up $2M in cap space and were able to get something in return for Ivory which wouldn't have been the case next offseason.

And in any case, I'm happy for Ivory since now he'll have an honest shot of being the #1 RB on a team, which is something that would never had happened with the Saints. He probably is relieved to know that he won't be spending another year wearing street clothes on the sidelines while the years he has left in the league keep counting down. I wish him all the best, but being that he was traded to the Jets; the only thing he can look forward to is individual success.

And not to forget, bot Ivory and Thomas and Cadet were UDFAs. I fully expect us to bring someone in this year too that will wow us and fight for playing time.

SaintnDE 04-27-2013 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 498467)
He probably is relieved to know that he won't be spending another year wearing street clothes on the sidelines while the years he has left in the league keep counting down.

I was with you up until here. The guy is 1/" from being permanently hurt/broken. Street clothes? Keep them handy IMO.

FinSaint 04-27-2013 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by SaintnDE (Post 498507)
I was with you up until here. The guy is 1/" from being permanently hurt/broken. Street clothes? Keep them handy IMO.


True, but you have to believe that Ivory himself believes that he is capable of being a #1 RB for a team and take majority of the snaps behind the QB, and I don't enjoy seeing a guy "waste away" his best years as insurance.


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