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hagan714 04-27-2013 07:39 AM

Pete Prisco grades I can agree with (Not AAA)
 
Pete Prisco grades

15 B Saints select: Kenny Vaccaro, FS, Texas

This is a need pick. They had to improve the range on the back end. Vaccaro had a heck of a coverage game against Tavon Austin.

75 A- Saints select: Terron Armstead, OT, Arkansas-Pine Bluff

He is from a small school but he is a big, nasty player who fills a need.

82 C Saints select: Johnathan Jenkins, DT, Georgia

The concern with Jenkins is his weight. If he can control it, he is a good player in the middle of their defense.

Grades: 2013 NFL Draft Round 3 - NFL - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com

Sorry i can not jump on the AAA + ranking of this draft to date.

Picks passed up and picks given away only amplify the losses in my book. This is a draft that comes along every once in while were the talent level at the back end of the draft does not drop off like driving of a cliff. We are going to want to redo one or both of the moves or lack of moves in selecting both defensive players. We blew a great chance at adding much needed quality depth to our new 34 defense.

Enough of that I will hang our DC later in the year. If not i have the crow in the freezer already to eat at season end.

I agree with these rating and Pete and I rarely agree

dizzle88 04-27-2013 07:43 AM

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Jahri evans was from a small school, look at how he has turned out, armstead could be a great player

hagan714 04-27-2013 07:51 AM

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I agree with the a rating because i really like our track history with small school OL scouting and development. if the kid lives up to half the hyped upside he will be an upgrade to Bushrod. now the question is is will he do it next year? i doubt it. year 2? there is a very good chance.

I had him in upper 4th myself but i can understand and accept the pick

It the defensive side of the ball i have issues with.

SmashMouth 04-27-2013 07:56 AM

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Who cares what Prisco thinks .... he still is a douchenozzle.

hagan714 04-27-2013 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 498518)
Who cares what Prisco thinks .... he still is a douchenozzle.

lmao generally i would agree with you. but once in a blue moon he is right.

FinSaint 04-27-2013 08:05 AM

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I think those grades are fair and I do agree with Hagan about this draft having a lot of good players even in the lower rounds - still, I don't hate any of the picks or moves, so I'm fairly happy with how things have gone so far.

Now, if they can add either Barrett Jones or Chris Faulk it'd go a long way into widening my smile on this 3rd day of the draft.

triman 04-27-2013 08:38 AM

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Still some players on the board. Jenkins dropped 40 lbs. That shows me awareness. and commitment. Armestead can be special . Safety was a nightmare for us last year and an upgrade was critical.. We have addressed everything but pass rush. Lets hope Butler blows up. WR and pass rush should be our final two picks.

Danno 04-27-2013 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 498506)
Pete Prisco grades

15 B Saints select: Kenny Vaccaro, FS, Texas

This is a need pick. They had to improve the range on the back end. Vaccaro had a heck of a coverage game against Tavon Austin.

75 A- Saints select: Terron Armstead, OT, Arkansas-Pine Bluff

He is from a small school but he is a big, nasty player who fills a need.

82 C Saints select: Johnathan Jenkins, DT, Georgia

The concern with Jenkins is his weight. If he can control it, he is a good player in the middle of their defense.

Once again, Prisco is an idiot.

Vacarro was the 16th ranked player on their own CBS boards. We got him at 15. How is this a need pick?

Looks to me like we picked a guy where he was supposed to be picked, and it just so happens that it also fits a need. I’d imagine all players picked in the 1st round fit their teams needs.

And I can’t think of any 350 pound NT’s that don’t have weight issues listed as a concern. They all do.

He was the 74th rated player on their own CBS boards, slated to be a late 2nd early 3rd rounder that we picked at 82. He was also ranked as one of the top 3-4 NT's available.

Prisco’s a moron.

TheOak 04-27-2013 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 498520)
lmao generally i would agree with you. but once in a blue moon he is right.

So.... Someone you would never agree with, agrees with you, and he becomes correct?

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Does not make either of you correct. Just makes you and Pete in agreement.

rezburna 04-27-2013 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 498549)
So.... Someone you would never agree with, agrees with you, and he becomes correct?

Attachment 6670
Attachment 6671

Does not make either of you correct. Just makes you and Pete in agreement.

bingo.

hagan714 04-27-2013 10:11 AM

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its a blue moon

westbankdaze 04-27-2013 10:25 AM

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I'm really happy with our draft so far. I'm liking the vacarro pick more and more.

Seer1 04-27-2013 11:01 AM

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I'm guessing the Saints know or think something about JenkinsII that I don't. I'm still a bit disappointed about Brandon Williams especially seeing that Baltimore -one of the two teams I truly admire when it comes to personnel decisions- took him instead. Who's to say they wouldn't have grabbed JenkinsII if he'd have been there though? As far as grades go, how can you give a grade on players that haven't even seen a snap while wearing an NFL uniform? I'm feeling pretty good that they are drafting the positions I've been seeing as the most important and none of the kids they've been picking look all that shabby.

BlackandBlue 04-27-2013 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 498546)
Once again, Prisco is an idiot.

Vacarro was the 16th ranked player on their own CBS boards. We got him at 15. How is this a need pick?

Looks to me like we picked a guy where he was supposed to be picked, and it just so happens that it also fits a need. I’d imagine all players picked in the 1st round fit their teams needs.

And I can’t think of any 350 pound NT’s that don’t have weight issues listed as a concern. They all do.

He was the 74th rated player on their own CBS boards, slated to be a late 2nd early 3rd rounder that we picked at 82. He was also ranked as one of the top 3-4 NT's available.

Prisco’s a moron.

^^^This, to the nth degree.

We were in dire need of a big ugly at nose, and we got one. Name me one other DT on this team that can play in a 3-4. You can't. My one concern is that I've heard he's a big teddy bear. Hope he can find a mean streak...

Seer1 04-27-2013 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackandBlue (Post 498592)
^^^This, to the nth degree.

We were in dire need of a big ugly at nose, and we got one. Name me one other DT on this team that can play in a 3-4. You can't. My one concern is that I've heard he's a big teddy bear. Hope he can find a mean streak...

And here we're hopin'.

FinSaint 04-27-2013 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackandBlue (Post 498592)
Name me one other DT on this team that can play in a 3-4. You can't.


Bunkley dominated as a 3-4 NT in Denver before signing with the Saints.

alexonfyre 04-27-2013 11:50 AM

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Sorry, homers, other than Armstead our draft is a wash. I'll give Vaccaro the benefit of the doubt and not immediately call him another bust because his physical tools are so amazing, but he has a lot to prove.
The Saints FO has drafted all of 0 good defensive players since '06, every talented player we have gotten out of free agency. Why exactly would that change now, and in a garbage draft class like this one?

TheOak 04-27-2013 11:53 AM

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Saints present front office 1 Super Bowl

The rest of us ?

nycsaintfan 04-27-2013 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by alexonfyre (Post 498626)
Sorry, homers, other than Armstead our draft is a wash. I'll give Vaccaro the benefit of the doubt and not immediately call him another bust because his physical tools are so amazing, but he has a lot to prove.
The Saints FO has drafted all of 0 good defensive players since '06, every talented player we have gotten out of free agency. Why exactly would that change now, and in a garbage draft class like this one?

This is a pretty deep draft class this season. Outside of last year our defense has not been that bad. Through the years we have done a better job of picking up defensive players on the free agent market, which has kept us competitive. Jordan has been solid since we selected him a few years ago. Hicks has a chance to be productive and I really like Vaccaro and Jenkins this year. Lets give this draft class the benefit of doubt.

BlackandBlue 04-27-2013 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 498603)
Bunkley dominated as a 3-4 NT in Denver before signing with the Saints.

Dominated is a strong word.

FinSaint 04-27-2013 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackandBlue (Post 498635)
Dominated is a strong word.


Graded out as the best in the league (or at the very top at least), so I think dominated is a very suitable term of words to describe his performance in the Broncos 3-4.

BlackandBlue 04-27-2013 12:18 PM

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Graded by who? I'm legitimately curious, as all i know about Bunkley's past is his underachieving play in philly.

ClintSaints 04-27-2013 01:55 PM

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Pete Prisco probably has a very small penis.

spkb25 04-27-2013 03:39 PM

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I am not arguing one way or the other for Pete's grades, but just because he sees things like you makes neither of you right. Pete usually hates on us- from what I remember.

spkb25 04-27-2013 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ClintSaints (Post 498801)
Pete Prisco probably has a very small penis.

I believe you're on to something

TheOak 04-27-2013 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 498959)
I believe you're on to something

Did you just say he is on Pete's Richard?

FinSaint 04-27-2013 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackandBlue (Post 498647)
Graded by who? I'm legitimately curious, as all i know about Bunkley's past is his underachieving play in philly.


I think it was PFF, but as I don't have an account I can't present you with the evidence.

If I remember correctly it was either Papz or Danno who presented the high grades for Bunkley in some thread way back... I think he might have graded as the best NT against the run or something like that.

spkb25 04-27-2013 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 498969)
Did you just say he is on Pete's Richard?

lol

Rugby Saint II 04-27-2013 05:22 PM

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So far it's a solid draft.

homerj07 04-27-2013 06:45 PM

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Who cares. Only time will tell.


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