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WillSaints81 04-27-2013 09:16 PM

Mayock
 
gave us a C. According to him we needed a LB and we didnt draft for that.

neugey 04-27-2013 09:19 PM

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Kind of hard to address all needs with the limited number of picks!

Unlike other teams, we don't a half-dozen compensatory picks to work with or our second rounder because Goodell hates us.

papz 04-27-2013 09:24 PM

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We also needed safety help, an offensive tackle, WR depth, and being that we've moved to a 3-4, a big projectable NT. And last I checked, Rufus Johnson will be a OLB as he's too small to play end in a 3-4.

Barry from MS 04-27-2013 09:51 PM

Re: Mayock
 
LBs Thomas and Reddick as UDFA--both projected middle round draft picks. Shut up, Mayock.

FinSaint 04-27-2013 09:57 PM

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Yeah, Reddick was projected as a 4-5 round pick and Thomas was projected as a 3-4 round pick by DraftScout, so I think the Saints did well to land them as UDFAs.

Danno 04-27-2013 10:16 PM

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So we get knocked for not drafting for need?

I thought it was common knowledge that drafting for need leads to failure.

So I'll bet the 49ers got an A since they addressed every need position and every non-need position.

hagan714 04-27-2013 10:22 PM

Re: Mayock
 
grade the palyers? BPA? needs only?

sometimes he is an idot. stick to players and leave team evals alone. you only make a fool out of yourself mike

alleycat_126 04-27-2013 10:22 PM

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Unfortunately UDFAs arent draft picks.... His job is to grade the draft, not what happens after it. With the limited number of draft picks we could have done better. We did do well, nobody is saying that we didn't do well. But not as well as we could have.....

- We let Pittsburgh get Jarvis Jones for nothing.
- Okafor fell past the point of no return and we still didn't pick him
- You could have done the deal with the Jets and just used the pick and still got your guy moving up was probably un-needed.

Just grading our draft alone... We hit a double, not a home run...

ClintSaints 04-27-2013 10:50 PM

Re: Mayock
 
We actually have some very good linebackers on the roster, I'm sure Rob Ryan will do better with them than Spags did.

saintsfan403 04-27-2013 10:52 PM

Re: Mayock
 
Cause we didn't do exactly what him and the other 'analysts' expected. Get over it, Mike.

spkb25 04-27-2013 11:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 499179)
gave us a C. According to him we needed a LB and we didnt draft for that.

haven't looked but have a strange suspicion the falcons will earn an a

Jack Vegas 04-28-2013 12:40 AM

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3-4 linebackers are like running backs, a dime a dozen. Get a guy that's big and fast and he'll have success. Less responsibility and less decision-making, and a more defined role from play to play than he would have in a 4-3.

There's a reason why every single team that runs a 3-4 is known for having good linebackers. And we still have Vilma/Lofton/Hawthorne even if they didn't acquire another single LB. Those guys aren't exactly dog meat out there.

Yes, Mayock is an idiot. You only have to look at his draft board to see the Saints were taking players that graded out well above the ones in surrounding draft spots. Saints had a fine draft.

st thomas 04-28-2013 12:49 AM

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Get a life mayock

WillSaints81 04-28-2013 02:04 AM

Re: Mayock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 499212)
So we get knocked for not drafting for need?

I thought it was common knowledge that drafting for need leads to failure.

So I'll bet the 49ers got an A since they addressed every need position and every non-need position.



The only team that got an A was the vikings. Everything else Bs and Cs.

saintsfan1976 04-28-2013 06:28 AM

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No one will remember this.

saintsfan1976 04-28-2013 07:01 AM

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Meanwhile, listen to him gush over Terron Armstead...


burningmetal 04-28-2013 08:25 AM

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After we passed on Jarvis Jones, and Jamie Collins didn't fall to us I really didn't expect or care for the Saints to draft a linebacker. With the Signing of Victor Butler, if we couldn't land a legitimate pass rushing OLB early in the draft there wasn't that much of a reason to worry about it in the later rounds.

And as has been mentioned, we got middle round prospects as UDFA's, so that settles it.

saintsfan1976 04-28-2013 08:46 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 499292)
And as has been mentioned, we got middle round prospects as UDFA's, so that settles it.

And makes our cap much more manageable.

homerj07 04-28-2013 09:16 AM

Re: Mayock
 
Screw him & Kiper they can suck on donkey dongs

triman 04-28-2013 10:28 AM

Re: Mayock
 
Only grade that matters is W's and Ls
IMHO we did well on paper. The W's and Ls in Jan are the only grades that mean anything.

Barry from MS 04-28-2013 01:19 PM

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Butler, Lofton, Hawthorne, Vilma, Galette, Wilson, then our new UDFAs. Plenty of LBs IMHO...whether they'll work together in the new system is a different story. I didn't like the Vaccaro pick, so that dude needs to prove me and those who think similarly about him wrong.

But if this all translates into more "W's" than "L's", then who cares? I'll eat that crow and like it.

saintsfan1976 04-28-2013 02:47 PM

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Vaccaro was the right choice. Secure the middle of the secondary with a versatile player who can cover half the field as well as play the box.

We haven't had a guy like that since....?

Crusader 04-28-2013 03:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 499383)
Vaccaro was the right choice. Secure the middle of the secondary with a versatile player who can cover half the field as well as play the box.

We haven't had a guy like that since....?

Sharper for a year but before that? Sammy Knight?

saintsfan1976 04-28-2013 04:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 499393)
Sharper for a year but before that? Sammy Knight?

And that's really all. I think something many miss about KV is his versatility. Think Roman Harper who tackles and covers better.

vpheughan 04-28-2013 05:53 PM

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If you have 15 draft choices you are going to have to cut someone. More choices doesn't mean better players picked.

There used to be 17 rounds. Most of the UFA would have been picked somewhere in there. They don't have the "drafted" tag to go with being signed.

QBREES9 04-28-2013 06:49 PM

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Screw him & Kiper

CheramieIII 04-28-2013 07:58 PM

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Mayock makes me wanna kill something. stupid is as mayock does

Rugby Saint II 04-29-2013 02:12 PM

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He should just keep to grading players........that is what he's good at.

73Saint 04-29-2013 02:15 PM

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Grading a draft days after the draft is about like grading a test after a study session; before the actual test has been taken.

73Saint 04-29-2013 02:17 PM

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I also heard Mayock, in another interview, when asked who was most likely to get offensive and defensive rookies of the year, the first defensive name he mentioned was Vaccaro. So, he's basically just talking to hear himself talk.


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