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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by jeanpierre Sam Bradford runs Roman Harper Down - YouTube Deceiving flub. 31-6 in the 4th and he was tired. No way he does that in a more balanced game. He actually played a good game that day....

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Old 04-30-2013, 01:17 AM   #11
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Deceiving flub. 31-6 in the 4th and he was tired. No way he does that in a more balanced game. He actually played a good game that day.
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Old 04-30-2013, 01:18 AM   #12
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Re: League source confirms that $2.6 million of New Orleans Saints safety Roman Harper's salary was guaranteed last month

come on that is his super bowl contract. we all were a bit giddy back then,

plus the saints unlike 99% of the teams in the nfl are loyal to a fault with their players.

we will see soon enough his future. contract redo in the final year that is extended and made cap friendly would not surprise me at all
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Originally Posted by hagan714 View Post
come on that is his super bowl contract. we all were a bit giddy back then,

plus the saints unlike 99% of the teams in the nfl are loyal to a fault with their players.

we will see soon enough his future. contract redo in the final year that is extended and made cap friendly would not surprise me at all
It wouldn't surprise me at all either. He was given that contract based on his role in GW's defense. That in the box safety is featured in Gregg Wiliamms' defense.

Now that Gregg was fired the following year his position is no longer featured, so of course he's currently over-paid. If we still had Gregg here he would not be overpaid.

Player are often overpaid in the last year of their contracts. Currently Harper is the 6th highest paid safety in the league. Obviously thats too high based on his current role.

Its no different than an O-lineman who excells at run blocking, but mediocre at pass blocking going from a power run team to a wide open pass offense that throws 70% of the time. Good player, wrong system.
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Re: League source confirms that $2.6 million of New Orleans Saints safety Roman Harper's salary was guaranteed last month

Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
What does that nave to do with anything? Harper had been applying pressure and blitzing that whole drive. His motor was always running. When you go that hard for an extended period, as Harper had, your body produces lactic acid, a by-product of the body burning carbohydrates for energy. This build up of lactic acid basically shuts down the muscles. It wouldn't have mattered if it was Usain Bolt in there instead of Harper, Bradford, or any other player that has had only minimal exertion, would have run him down, as well.
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What does that nave to do with anything? Harper had been applying pressure and blitzing that whole drive. His motor was always running. When you go that hard for an extended period, as Harper had, your body produces lactic acid, a by-product of the body burning carbohydrates for energy. This build up of lactic acid basically shuts down the muscles. It wouldn't have mattered if it was Usain Bolt in there instead of Harper, Bradford, or any other player that has had only minimal exertion, would have run him down, as well.
Translation for dummies: He ran out of gas.

He was pulling full vacuum on that oxygen mask for at least 10 minutes after that play. I thought it was funny that the players placed a couple 5-gallon gas cans at his locker after the game.
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Re: League source confirms that $2.6 million of New Orleans Saints safety Roman Harper's salary was guaranteed last month

My theory is that Harper is cut this year after camp evaluations of the players brought in, and if the FO sees enough to know we already have his replacement.

We cut him and swallow all of the dead money this year, with out replacing, which gives us carry over cap for next year.
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Re: League source confirms that $2.6 million of New Orleans Saints safety Roman Harper's salary was guaranteed last month

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We cut him and swallow all of the dead money this year, with out replacing, which gives us carry over cap for next year.
That's interesting, I wasn't aware the celery cap worked like that. So any dead money from a player who is not on the roster counts as cap carry-over to the next year? Does that mean we have any extra this year from somebody who we may have still been paying last year?

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My theory is that Harper is cut this year after camp evaluations of the players brought in, and if the FO sees enough to know we already have his replacement.

We cut him and swallow all of the dead money this year, with out replacing, which gives us carry over cap for next year.
+1. I could see us doing just that.
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Re: League source confirms that $2.6 million of New Orleans Saints safety Roman Harper's salary was guaranteed last month

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That's interesting, I wasn't aware the celery cap worked like that. So any dead money from a player who is not on the roster counts as cap carry-over to the next year? Does that mean we have any extra this year from somebody who we may have still been paying last year?

Close but change celery cap to "unused cap" and your correct. Unused cap is carried over. If we start and finish this season with 4M in unused cap space it is +4M to next years cap.

The dead money is mostly already spent through bonus. And since his dead money this year is very close to his celery, its a wash.
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Re: League source confirms that $2.6 million of New Orleans Saints safety Roman Harper's salary was guaranteed last month

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I hope Harper stays and plays in the box which is where he's good. Cut Jenkins and play Vaccaro at FS. Problem solved.
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