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papz 04-30-2013 06:15 PM

Malcolm Jenkins could see more nickel
 
GM Mickey Loomis said the Saints will consider moving FS Malcolm Jenkins to nickel back on passing downs in an effort to get first-round pick Kenny Vaccaro on the field.

This suggests the Saints are indeed planning to keep both Jenkins and Roman Harper. It's also possible the scenario could be reversed, with Vaccaro manning the slot on passing downs. The Saints didn't take Vaccaro at No. 15 overall with a limited role in mind. He'll play major snaps for a defense that was one of the worst in league history last season.

Source: Jeff Duncan on Twitter

Seer1 04-30-2013 06:18 PM

Re: Malcolm Jenkins could see more nickel
 
We could see Malcolm even more at just plain old CB by the time the season runs into the post.... You didn't see it here first, but you saw it here.

alleycat_126 04-30-2013 06:29 PM

Re: Malcolm Jenkins could see more nickel
 
Doesn't matter where he is on the field he's getting picked on!!!!

Seer1 04-30-2013 06:30 PM

Re: Malcolm Jenkins could see more nickel
 
This is gonna be a good year for Malcolm, just y'all wait and see.

Danno 04-30-2013 06:41 PM

Re: Malcolm Jenkins could see more nickel
 
Wait a minute, I thought Harper was the problem at safety?

So now Payton personally spoke with Jenkins about drafting Vacarro, and has now informed Jenkins that he'll be the NB on passing downs instead of FS.

Hmmm, interesting.

AsylumGuido 04-30-2013 06:42 PM

Re: Malcolm Jenkins could see more nickel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alleycat_126 (Post 500059)
Doesn't matter where he is on the field he's getting picked on!!!!

Jenkins is far better than you relate.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 500063)
This is gonna be a good year for Malcolm, just y'all wait and see.

If he has a bit of pressure up front and a little coverage help he will definitely have a good year. I really like the kid.

AsylumGuido 04-30-2013 06:46 PM

Re: Malcolm Jenkins could see more nickel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 500065)
Wait a minute, I thought Harper was the problem at safety?

So now Payton personally spoke with Jenkins about drafting Vacarro, and has now informed Jenkins that he'll be the NB on passing downs instead of FS.

Hmmm, interesting.

He is ... on passing downs.

jeanpierre 04-30-2013 07:36 PM

Re: Malcolm Jenkins could see more nickel
 
Jenkins should be a Cornerback...

darksoul35 04-30-2013 07:36 PM

Re: Malcolm Jenkins could see more nickel
 
I like Jenkins also. I always have. I just think he has been used wrong.

homerj07 04-30-2013 07:47 PM

Re: Malcolm Jenkins could see more nickel
 
If we get more pressure up front all the DBs will have a better year

saintsfan1976 04-30-2013 08:02 PM

Re: Malcolm Jenkins could see more nickel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 500077)
Jenkins should be a Cornerback...

he will. and that's the think about Ryan - he'll switch guys and send QBs into a tailspin by the 3rd qtr. I love the talent in our secondary now. With a good camp and a little luck on the health front this will be a top 12 secondary.

QBREES9 04-30-2013 08:19 PM

Re: Malcolm Jenkins could see more nickel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 500063)
This is gonna be a good year for Malcolm, just y'all wait and see.

I hope so

Dewayne318 04-30-2013 08:34 PM

Re: Malcolm Jenkins could see more nickel
 
I don't understand why is Jenkins worried about his job. I the Vacarro need to take Harper spot

hagan714 04-30-2013 08:37 PM

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Vaccaro was mr everything right? ok they have no idea what they are going to do with him lol

saintsfan1976 04-30-2013 08:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 500120)
Vaccaro was mr everything right? ok they have no idea what they are going to do with him lol

Sure they do. They'll do everything with him!

halloween 65 04-30-2013 08:38 PM

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Jenkins will sit on the bench by week 8, God given talent but something in the brain don't get it. I think he is a bust. He had Sharper as a mentor something few can say and never got what a master craftsman installed into him and never will !!

saintsfan1976 04-30-2013 08:41 PM

Re: Malcolm Jenkins could see more nickel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 500122)
Jenkins will sit on the bench by week 8, God given talent but something in the brain don't get it. I think he is a bust. He had Sharper as a mentor something few can say and never got what a master craftsman installed into him and never will !!

Disagree. Jenkins is a solid player who's had 3 DCs in 4 years and a head coach suspended.

He's smart, athletic, doesn't quit and versatile. People here are already talking about him being a CB. Give him one more season of stability. He'll be fine.

halloween 65 04-30-2013 11:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 500125)
Disagree. Jenkins is a solid player who's had 3 DCs in 4 years and a head coach suspended.

He's smart, athletic, doesn't quit and versatile. People here are already talking about him being a CB. Give him one more season of stability. He'll be fine.

Respectfully disagree. Other than a few good plays in a Saints uniform he has shown nothing more than what a 3rd or 4th string player could do and for a 1st round pick at #14 it beyond words, how long can he continue to play at a poor level before he needs to go !! 4 years is a long time, just saying.

frydaddy 05-01-2013 12:11 AM

Re: Malcolm Jenkins could see more nickel
 
I'm not ready to give up on MJ just yet. I tend to agree that his skills probably haven't been utilized very well overall, and I have hope that he will fit well into Ryan's scheme. Whether its playing cb, nickel, or playing down in the box on the te or slot. My thinking is that if he's capable of playing physical at the line he can mostly negate his lack of elite speed. It's what Ryan did with Asomugha and it worked pretty well. Not that I'm comparing the two players, but if I recall correctly, Jenkins was a man-to-man corner coming out of college and it seems logical that he would be better suited to playing a similar style now. Even in his rookie year - and yes, he got burnt up a lot, but - you could see flashes of his potential at corner.. and I still don't think he was being used the right way back then. I might be wrong on this one, and someone please correct me if so, but I don't think GW played a lot of press coverage. I know it was mostly man.. anyway. I feel like Jenkins could, potentially, excel in press. My two reasons being the previously mentioned issue of his lack of straight line speed, and that I believe he is better at playing the receiver one-on-one, like a corner than he is at playing the ball in space, like a safety

Whatever the case, I'm rooting for him. I think Kenny V coming to New Orleans could be one of the best things that ever happens to Jenkins' career. Time will tell.... Man I can't wait for this season.

AllSaints 05-01-2013 02:23 PM

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Im a jenkins fan and I was unsure about when we moved him to FS I liked him a CB I though the was making good strides n them we throw him out into the field to be the man to save r butts but um it hasn't really worked out that way... KV needs to be on the field as much as possible I really think he is going to be a Top Caliber Safety for this team n the coming years...

Seer1 05-01-2013 05:26 PM

Re: Malcolm Jenkins could see more nickel
 
Hard not to get burnt when you're the only player on the team farther back than five yards off the ball.

spkb25 05-01-2013 07:38 PM

Re: Malcolm Jenkins could see more nickel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 500065)
Wait a minute, I thought Harper was the problem at safety?

So now Payton personally spoke with Jenkins about drafting Vacarro, and has now informed Jenkins that he'll be the NB on passing downs instead of FS.

Hmmm, interesting.

I think that's because Harper can't play nickel, Danno. lol

|Mitch| 05-01-2013 07:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 500334)
I think that's because Harper can't play nickel, Danno. lol

but Vaccaro can... :rolleyes:

Seer1 05-01-2013 07:43 PM

Re: Malcolm Jenkins could see more nickel
 
Sooo lookin' forward to training camp.

spkb25 05-01-2013 08:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 500335)
but Vaccaro can... :rolleyes:

There's no history of that. MJ started as a corner for us. I think it makes the most logical sense.

|Mitch| 05-01-2013 08:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 500338)
There's no history of that.

Did you not watch him in college? He has a lot of experience in the slot at Texas...

2013 NFL Draft: Kenny Vaccaro (S-Texas) Scouting Report - Turf Show Times

spkb25 05-01-2013 08:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 500340)
Did you not watch him in college? He has a lot of experience in the slot at Texas...

2013 NFL Draft: Kenny Vaccaro (S-Texas) Scouting Report - Turf Show Times

No, in truth never watched him in college, but this is the NFL. Makes the most sense imho

|Mitch| 05-01-2013 08:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 500346)
No, in truth never watched him in college, but this is the NFL. Makes the most sense imho

Jenkins will be a better corner than safety, and Vaccaro is a better safety than Jenkins. 2 position upgrade with one player...

But it seems Loomis/Payton are showing that Harper wasn't the problem...

hagan714 05-01-2013 08:33 PM

Re: Malcolm Jenkins could see more nickel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AllSaints (Post 500278)
Im a jenkins fan and I was unsure about when we moved him to FS I liked him a CB I though the was making good strides n them we throw him out into the field to be the man to save r butts but um it hasn't really worked out that way... KV needs to be on the field as much as possible I really think he is going to be a Top Caliber Safety for this team n the coming years...

yeah i was one of the people that thought the move to FS was a good one for him. last year i throw out of the window for the entire secondary when spags got pitch out. i still think he could pull it off as a safety. contract year for him so the pressure is on to do so.

spkb25 05-01-2013 08:40 PM

Re: Malcolm Jenkins could see more nickel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 500347)
But it seems Loomis/Payton are showing that Harper wasn't the problem...

That's silly- Harper gets killed at safety. Destroyed in coverage. Harper has no ability to play nickel.

Tim Tebow was a QB in college, who the **** cares. He can't play it in the NFL.

Harper has always been a liability in coverage.. always. If you think he's here after next year you've lost your mind. He's only here now because cutting him wouldn't save us much money.

spkb25 05-01-2013 08:41 PM

Re: Malcolm Jenkins could see more nickel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 500347)
Jenkins will be a better corner than safety, and Vaccaro is a better safety than Jenkins. 2 position upgrade with one player...

But it seems Loomis/Payton are showing that Harper wasn't the problem...

What happen to Harp in the Seattle playoff game again??

spkb25 05-01-2013 08:46 PM

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Yeah, Okay

spkb25 05-01-2013 08:48 PM

Re: Malcolm Jenkins could see more nickel
 
And I am not defending or advocating for MJ, but I don't even want to hear that bull**** on this site that Harper isn't a liability in coverage, bull****

|Mitch| 05-01-2013 08:49 PM

Re: Malcolm Jenkins could see more nickel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 500354)
And I am not defending or advocating for MJ, but I don't even want to hear that bull**** on this site that Harper isn't a liability in coverage, bull****

Apparently Loomis sees it different...

Quote:

GM Mickey Loomis said the Saints will consider moving FS Malcolm Jenkins to nickel back on passing downs in an effort to get first-round pick Kenny Vaccaro on the field.

This suggests the Saints are indeed planning to keep both Jenkins and Roman Harper.

Danno 05-01-2013 08:53 PM

Re: Malcolm Jenkins could see more nickel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 500354)
And I am not defending or advocating for MJ, but I don't even want to hear that bull**** on this site that Harper isn't a liability in coverage, bull****

He isn't

Seer1 05-01-2013 08:59 PM

Re: Malcolm Jenkins could see more nickel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 500351)
What happen to Harp in the Seattle playoff game again??

I'm ready for everybody starting fresh. Work all their asses off and let training camp sort'em out!

spkb25 05-01-2013 09:01 PM

Re: Malcolm Jenkins could see more nickel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 500356)
Apparently Loomis sees it different...

There is nothing to point to for that. Harper cannot play nickel, so it makes more sense to put MJ there.

|Mitch| 05-01-2013 09:02 PM

Re: Malcolm Jenkins could see more nickel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 500362)
There is nothing to point to for that. Harper cannot play nickel, so it makes more sense to put MJ there.

If Harper was the big problem, he would have been released and Vaccaro would play SS...

spkb25 05-01-2013 09:02 PM

Re: Malcolm Jenkins could see more nickel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 500357)
He isn't

Has been his entire stay. He got destroyed, over and over in the Seattle game. Over and over. He's horrible in coverage, horrible. Got destroyed in the 49er playoff game, and against Tampa. That's three games that come to mind

spkb25 05-01-2013 09:03 PM

Re: Malcolm Jenkins could see more nickel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 500364)
If Harper was the big problem, he would have been released and Vaccaro would play SS...

No, he wouldn't because it saves us no money releasing him. Virtually none. Why would you release someone and still pay them, why?


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