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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; I believe our tackle competition will produce and sustain a productive starter in our system look our offense is more of a step up in the pocket offense than a 7 step drop and power deep playaction "Bruce Arian like ...

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Old 05-02-2013, 01:16 PM   #11
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I believe our tackle competition will produce and sustain a productive starter in our system look our offense is more of a step up in the pocket offense than a 7 step drop and power deep playaction "Bruce Arian like offense" sure we have some of that power playaction but closer to a west coast rythym and timing offense than an offense that has to have a successful run game or awesome Tackles to keep pressure off of the QB! So Drew needs a bigtime interior line or least an effective one to step up in! Look all our tackles need to be able to do most of the time is run the edge rushers up field and be able to handle a bull rush but they really don't even have to do anything but screen them they don't have to mirror them for 5 seconds more like 3 at the most!
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Old 05-02-2013, 01:20 PM   #12
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Not saying I wouldn't mind a dominant Tackle just saying it isn't a must! I believe we need a tackle capable of making blocks down field and pulling in the screen and run game!
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Our defensive Troubles have all been predicated on our roster "we have had 3-4 type of personnel since G Williams era! His system was a 3-4 disguise as a 4-3 so we've been drafting and signing guys closer to a 3-4 for a while now and we will get back to dominating well our form of dominating on defense "being able to hold them to 21 forcing turnovers and attacking with a lead with regularity" So we w"ere never going to have success with a soft zone cover 2 base D it isn't in our team build "you don't ask a 300a lb guy to be a jockey" so yes Sean made a mistake and hired Spags "who was uncooperative and lack of adaptability and communication to try to be effective" We have talent but Greg Williams's had his whole defense around a disguised safety as a OLB "Harper" and an OLB as a safety "Fujita and mainly Shanle" Shanle or Whoever was the better cover OLB or "will" to fool the QB and allow Harper to hardly ever get picked up or blocked "sack and tackle production" sure he made the plays but it was the scheme that made it successful not.Harper's ability really all he had was Williams's good graces and his willingness to make Harper the rover or it was just the position that they fell into because Harper is that bad in coverage where a "Will" LB can out cover a safety that in itself should be a big time red flag! THANK-YOU VACCARO the strong safety has been my main concern because of all the struggles or just plain failure in the secondary and all the things they have done to make it work in the past!
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Old 05-02-2013, 01:28 PM   #14
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So much talent that no job is safe is a great thing to have. It also alludes to not having a major drop off in talent during a rotation or if someone gets hurt.
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Our OTs in our majority west coast scheme have less importance that that of a Bruce Arians type "power run game / playaction deep passing" sure we have some of that but it isn't predictable so it can't be taken advantage of unless they know it's coming! Our Offensive Tackles need to be able to block downfield or pull sure they need to be able to run their guy upfield and stop a bull rush but Drew's pocket presence and footwork allows him to hardly ever get sacked from edge rushers unless it's an injured Strief is out there hurting the team because he can't even run them upfield #st_louis_game" So as long as we have a decent DECENT Tackle we will be alright but I worry more about Strief and him starting "because they always are sliding to help him but I hope that was due to injury but that 1 I question but we'll see plus elite pass rushers are starting to be on the right side more often to take advantage of weaker RT!
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How does Cameron Jordan fit into this new scheme, is he a down lineman or an outside LB? anyone have any thoughts on this?
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That would be a Levon Kirkland sized LB
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How does Cameron Jordan fit into this new scheme, is he a down lineman or an outside LB? anyone have any thoughts on this?
He's a prototypical 3-4 DE. Most scouts projected him as a 3-4 DE from the very start.

He probably fits the 3-4 transition better than any player we currently have, including the new signees and draft picks.
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That would be a Levon Kirkland sized LB
I knew he was 6'4" but Didn't realize he was 287 lbs, stupid question, moving on.
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Re: Analysis: New Orleans Saints will have numerous positions up for grabs

i do not see a an major personnel changes outside of moving players around to fit the 34. OT is the only spot i see up for grabs
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