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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; My biggest worry is still LB and OT. Just because you have a lot of competition doesn't mean they're good....

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Old 05-02-2013, 05:05 PM   #21
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My biggest worry is still LB and OT. Just because you have a lot of competition doesn't mean they're good.
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Old 05-02-2013, 07:07 PM   #22
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Re: Analysis: New Orleans Saints will have numerous positions up for grabs

OT for sure. But I am hopeful that the WRs behind Colston & Moore step up
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Old 05-02-2013, 07:19 PM   #23
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Re: Analysis: New Orleans Saints will have numerous positions up for grabs

LT is my biggest concern, but I do think we will have an able start in Armstead or Brown...and while I still have some questions about our secondary, all we really need to return to our former glory is a functioning defence that doesn't haemorrhage points.
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Old 05-03-2013, 01:13 AM   #24
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He wants over 5 mil a yr plus he is old and we got young studs that would suffer "not get valuable experience they have to get as an OLB plus Freeney is an undersized 4-3 DE who didn't like to play OLB last year"
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Old 05-03-2013, 01:45 AM   #25
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Trust the competition "We've been hampered by entitlement, complacency, and lack of accountability" So competition for guys who haven't got the big payday is perfect for what our team needs! Expect a few probowlers this year on defense! Our only problem on Defense was "ROMAN HARPER"!
Greg Williams built his entire scheme around Roman Harper's Weaknesses and covered them through unpredictable blitz schemes because Roman actually was doing "will OLB assignments while Fujita or Shanle covered the Strong Safety assignments! GW turned Harper into a rich and productive player but it was only because the OC's and QB's didn't know what GW and the defense were going to do because they disguised so well by switching will LB alot and Showing a 4-3 base front, but we were actually playing a blend of a 3-4 when we had that extra will LB on the field! It was brilliant UNTIL the weaknesses were exposed over the last few years of Williams's tenure! The problem with Roman is that his tackling ability left him! That is the only thing that he had going for him besides instincts and blitz timing!
I never liked a safety that couldn't cover especially in today's pass happy league! So there is no use for him because there is nothing he can do better than Vaccaro or Jenkins! Jenkins's Struggles were almost always about him being out of position because he was overcompensating for all of Harper's Weaknesses So basically Jenkins was out there by himself!! I am very happy about this pick! BYE BYE HARPER!
Roman should have been willing to take a paycut like Vilma and Smith! heck he should have offered! What Got thinking they were done with him his said the saints didn't contact his agent during that week of restructures and he said this "I am just going to be playing golf everyday and relaxing" I mean if I was Him I would be in the weight room and conditioning before and after Golf! I know he doesn't stay in shape because about 3 or 4 years ago we were playing and he picked up a fumble on the opposite goalline and he picked up the ball and he had a 10 yd headstart to take it to the house and he got caught before he got to the their 30 BY "SAM BRADFORD" This is absolutely crazy for a safety with a 10 yd headstart to get caught by a QB and he didn't just get caught he ran out of gas and it was just plain sad it was the start of me seeing Roman for who and what he is on the field!!!
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Old 05-04-2013, 02:23 AM   #26
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We will dominate! We will compete to the very least until the NFC Cham. Game this year! We will have a remarkable and unbelievable turnaround to the point of like seriously HOW were we that bad last year? "our D was setup to play around 1 person weaknesses and it caused others to neglect theirs and their assignments so instead" See when you scheme around 1 person; what are you going to do if the OC's and QB's figure out your scheme and why your scheming the way your scheming "covering Roman's lack of ability to play safety by using a "will" OLB that is unbelievably better than a safety Harper that is insane a LB better in coverage" but why do you think they did it not just to fool the QB it is that they had to to have any type of success on defense! Remember when you scheme like that and get figured out that you have to scheme like that your done! Rob Ryan will have these guys busting it and breaking their back to the Team we've grown to know and love! We just need to stay true to Competition and Team "not just one or two players the entire defense and with the offense setting the tone"= Success!
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Old 05-04-2013, 03:42 AM   #27
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Re: Analysis: New Orleans Saints will have numerous positions up for grabs

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Trust the competition "We've been hampered by entitlement, complacency, and lack of accountability" So competition for guys who haven't got the big payday is perfect for what our team needs! Expect a few probowlers this year on defense! Our only problem on Defense was "ROMAN HARPER"!........

wow nice write up. Harper as i have said before is a old school SS stuck in the new era. Traditional SS are pretty done for in the NFL with the rule changes to make this a:

high flying
high scoring
highly rated
highly profitable

for the owners and the players. They do not care about wrecking the game it is all about money. Thus a true SS is all but dead and buried in football

Vaccaro was drafted to replace him. Probably not this year but next. kid still has to take to the field.

Now Jenkins we will see what happens. I see Jenkins and Vaccaro as the same style players. Vaccaro is a bit more of a SS in his play than Jenkins so strong side safety is probably going to be his home,

So draft a FS in the early rounds of 2014?

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Trust the competition "We've been hampered by entitlement, complacency, and lack of accountability" So competition for guys who haven't got the big payday is perfect for what our team needs! Expect a few probowlers this year on defense! Our only problem on Defense was "ROMAN HARPER"!........
Wow, I could not disagree more with this assertion

Entitlement? I don't see any entitlement on this team.

Complacency? Where? This defense may have been bad, but complacent is the last word I'd use to describe it.

Lack of accountability? Steve Spagnoulo disagrees, as does Sedrick Ellis, Scott Shanle, Johnny Patrick, Turk McBride...

And lastly this little piece from fantasyland...
"Our only problem on Defense was "ROMAN HARPER""
Wow, for anyone to even remotely think this obviously either didn't watch a single Saints game or knows very little about football.

I've seen some ridiculous statements, and quite a lot of them recently, but that is about as absurd as it gets.
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Old 05-05-2013, 12:41 PM   #29
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Re: Analysis: New Orleans Saints will have numerous positions up for grabs

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Wow, I could not disagree more with this assertion

Entitlement? I don't see any entitlement on this team.

Complacency? Where? This defense may have been bad, but complacent is the last word I'd use to describe it.

Lack of accountability? Steve Spagnoulo disagrees, as does Sedrick Ellis, Scott Shanle, Johnny Patrick, Turk McBride...

And lastly this little piece from fantasyland...
"Our only problem on Defense was "ROMAN HARPER""
Wow, for anyone to even remotely think this obviously either didn't watch a single Saints game or knows very little about football.

I've seen some ridiculous statements, and quite a lot of them recently, but that is about as absurd as it gets.
Couldn't agree more.
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Old 05-06-2013, 08:17 AM   #30
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Re: Analysis: New Orleans Saints will have numerous positions up for grabs

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Couldn't agree more.
It just goes to show that if someone doesn't like a player, they'll go to any means necessary including absurd statements like the one above to rationalize their dislike.

It takes much of the enjoyment out of reading the board. All I can do is just shake my head and ignore it. I wouldn't have even seen it if someone hadn't quoted it.
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