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Crusader 05-05-2013 03:47 PM

Malcolm Jenkins didn't want to be like Reggie Bush
 
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When the New Orleans Saints used their first-round draft pick last week to select free safety Kenny Vaccaro, Malcolm Jenkins knew he had been put on notice.

How could he not? Jenkins was the Saints' starting free safety last season. Vaccaro's arrival was a clear sign that Jenkins was heading to a backup role ... or worse.

But Jenkins didn't want to create tension, so he decided to tweet Vaccaro a welcome message. It was opposite from the way Reggie Bush handled the same situation after the Saints drafted running back Mark Ingram in 2011. Bush infamously tweeted, "It's been fun New Orleans."

Sure enough, Bush was gone three months later.

"It makes it an awkward situation in the locker room," Jenkins said Saturday, according to The Advocate.

"If you kind of look back at history, you see when we drafted Mark Ingram, how Reggie handled it ... it was kind of the opposite."

We're amused by Jenkins' decision to publicly drag Bush into the conversation here, but this really was a move about self-preservation. Jenkins was a struggling starter on one of the worst defenses of all time. Entering the final year of his contract, Jenkins can make a) a good impression or b) plans for an exit.

He wisely chose the former.

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hagan714 05-05-2013 05:15 PM

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I still do not see Valcarro as a replacement to Jenkins. I just can not get there from here.

TheOak 05-05-2013 05:31 PM

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QBREES9 05-05-2013 06:19 PM

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Class move.

rezburna 05-05-2013 06:22 PM

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Reggie Bush is right in the boat with Ricky Williams and Carl Nicks for me.

AsylumGuido 05-05-2013 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 501007)
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Time to step up like Malcolm can and prove his worth. I love the kid. He was thrown into a retarded attempt at a defense that had no chance of success and was repeatedly forced to try to cover the mistakes of CB's that were not fitted for zone defense. Of course he would look bad.

Understand what I am saying here ... Malcolm is the real thing.

TheEnigma 05-05-2013 06:58 PM

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I wouldn't want to be either

Dewayne318 05-05-2013 07:23 PM

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I think he and Vacarro shud start together

saintsfan1976 05-05-2013 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Dewayne318 (Post 501024)
I think he and Vacarro shud start together

Yes, i agree, in certain packages.

Let's not get caught up on the depth chart on paper here fellas. Rob Ryan will use his players to their strengths and put them in situations to make plays.

Malcolm Jenkins (like Vacarro) was drafted for his versatility. He played well early on and struggled recently but I think most of us here agree we can attribute that more to Spags than MJ.

Harper still brings some value albeit at a hefty price, this season at least..

Vacarro and Jenkins will be playmakers under Ryan and who "starts" won't be important.

homerj07 05-05-2013 07:44 PM

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Smart move. They don't want a moody petulant child in the locker room (which is why they got rid of Bush)

Marlboro Man 05-05-2013 07:51 PM

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I'd like to see MJ moved to SS, and Vaccaro to FS. That could turn out to be the best set of safties in the league.

homerj07 05-05-2013 07:51 PM

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Class. No one wants to be rated with Bush when it comes to personality

halloween 65 05-05-2013 08:28 PM

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If Jenkins didn't have his head in his butt he would not be in this position, I hope he gets traded, benched or flat out released, what a big bust!!

halloween 65 05-05-2013 08:34 PM

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He's a bust!! Please get someone who can actually play football!! He's gone from corner{which he cannot play} to FS{ which he cannot play}. How much more do you need to see this, moving him to SS he want be any better there either!!

saintsfan403 05-05-2013 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 501045)
He's a bust!! Please get someone who can actually play football!! He's gone from corner{which he cannot play} to FS{ which he cannot play}. How much more do you need to see this, moving him to SS he want be any better there either!!

lol

Cory9289 05-06-2013 12:25 AM

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As said earlier I feel he's been put in positions that made him look bad regardless of how well he can play. He's still one of my favorite players. Heh.

Crusader 05-06-2013 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 501045)
He's a bust!! Please get someone who can actually play football!! He's gone from corner{which he cannot play} to FS{ which he cannot play}. How much more do you need to see this, moving him to SS he want be any better there either!!

No he is not a bust. A bust is a player like Sullivan that flames out real quick and never has any impact. Jenkins is a decent player with flashes of brilliance. Quite the difference.

Rell&Gold 05-06-2013 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 501045)
He's a bust!! Please get someone who can actually play football!! He's gone from corner{which he cannot play} to FS{ which he cannot play}. How much more do you need to see this, moving him to SS he want be any better there either!!

"He's gone from corner{which he cannot play}" What???? since when? He is a corner converted into safety thrown into 3 defensive schemes on the "Worse Defense" with little to NO pass rush and inconsistent CB play.

westbankdaze 05-06-2013 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Rell&Gold (Post 501075)
"He's gone from corner{which he cannot play}" What???? since when? He is a corner converted into safety thrown into 3 defensive schemes on the "Worse Defense" with little to NO pass rush and inconsistent CB play.

Since profootballtalk rated him one of the two worst safeties in the NFL. Guess who the other one is.

hagan714 05-06-2013 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 501020)
Reggie Bush is right in the boat with Ricky Williams and Carl Nicks for me.

bush i set aside from those two. he was just what this team needed at this time. in the end i was a bit shocked by it all but what the heck he saved the saints and kept them in new orleans. if he came back i would be ok with it.

nicks hurt but the money was a killer with the cap

ricky was a freak lost in time and space.

halloween 65 05-06-2013 07:22 AM

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Bash away, the proof is in his play," bust."!!

Danno 05-06-2013 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by westbankdaze (Post 501085)
Since profootballtalk rated him one of the two worst safeties in the NFL. Guess who the other one is.

And PFF ranked everyone on our 2012 defense worst in the league too. It was hardly just the safeties.

Why do people continue to reference PFF rankings only to our safeties? If the 9 players in front of your safeties suck, your safeties surely will too.

73Saint 05-06-2013 08:16 AM

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He's not a bust. No where near it. I agree he has to step up this year, but so does everyone on our defense that remains from years past. The guy is a stud, he's got so much heart and athletic ability. I want to see him succeed as a Saint, as much as anyone else on our team...

TheOak 05-06-2013 08:36 AM

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The difference between Bush and Jenkins is that Bush had a market.

Leighton B 05-06-2013 02:56 PM

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Know that Malcolm Jenkins is trying to stay disciplined it is good for him! Now Harper's is the one who's going to gone or cut!

saintsfan1976 05-06-2013 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 501096)
Bash away, the proof is in his play," bust."!!

So was the proof in his play when there was some semblance of a pass rush.

halloween 65 05-06-2013 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 501220)
So was the proof in his play when there was some semblance of a pass rush.

We get to see this season, when we had something of a pass rush he was at corner not FS and moved to FS because he was to slow.

westbankdaze 05-07-2013 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 501099)
And PFF ranked everyone on our 2012 defense worst in the league too. It was hardly just the safeties.

Why do people continue to reference PFF rankings only to our safeties? If the 9 players in front of your safeties suck, your safeties surely will too.

So you don't think our safeties are a problem? If its all our DLine why did we take a safety with our first pick?

Our safeties had not INTs between the TWO OF THEM for TWO freaking years.

Quit being an apologist.

Danno 05-07-2013 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by westbankdaze (Post 501389)
So you don't think our safeties are a problem? If its all our DLine why did we take a safety with our first pick?

Our safeties had not INTs between the TWO OF THEM for TWO freaking years.

Quit being an apologist.

I didn't say that its all our D-line's fault. I didn't say our safeties weren't a part of the problem.

If it was all the safeties fault, why did we go after CB/DE/LB so hard in free-agency with all those free agent safeties available?

Start paying attention.

westbankdaze 05-07-2013 09:58 AM

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I am paying attention.

Malcolm Jenkins is one of the worst players in the NFL. I will eat crow this season if this guy somehow turns into Sharper 2.0. I just don't see it happening - even behind a better defensive line.

AsylumGuido 05-07-2013 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by westbankdaze (Post 501423)
I am paying attention.

Malcolm Jenkins is one of the worst players in the NFL. I will eat crow this season if this guy somehow turns into Sharper 2.0. I just don't see it happening - even behind a better defensive line.

You must have been watching different games than me. It the right system Jenkins looks good.

Joker 05-07-2013 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by westbankdaze (Post 501423)
I am paying attention.

Malcolm Jenkins is one of the worst players in the NFL. I will eat crow this season if this guy somehow turns into Sharper 2.0. I just don't see it happening - even behind a better defensive line.

You're wrong! let me know how crow taste when you're done eating.

Rell&Gold 05-07-2013 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 501227)
We get to see this season, when we had something of a pass rush he was at corner not FS and moved to FS because he was to slow.

He was moved to FS because the Saints felt as though he was versatile enough to do so and he played some Safety @ Ohio

Danno 05-07-2013 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by westbankdaze (Post 501423)
I am paying attention.

Apparently you aren't, since you claimed I said safeties weren't a problem and claimed that I said its all the D-lines fault.

Pay attention better.

BusDriver 05-07-2013 03:03 PM

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I know its a what you can do for me now thing, but that Thanksgiving Day strip he did made my turkey taste better. Specially since my brother is a Cowboys fan. :)

73Saint 05-07-2013 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BusDriver (Post 501474)
I know its a what you can do for me now thing, but that Thanksgiving Day strip he did made my turkey taste better. Specially since my brother is a Cowboys fan. :)


That play, along w/ his running down of Vincent Jackson last year against TB, are two plays that are among the top plays in Saints history.

Seer1 05-07-2013 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Joker (Post 501444)
You're wrong! let me know how crow taste when you're done eating.

Hell, with everything we're arguing about on this forum, we'll all know what that tastes like come season's end.

Boutte 05-07-2013 07:28 PM

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Jenkins isn't going anywhere. I still think he can become a very good safety. I've given up on him becoming a star but that doesn't mean he's worthless. One of the worst players in the NFL? That's just ignorant.

Vacarro hasn't stepped foot on the field and some of you are anointing his the second coming of Ronnie Lott. The silliness in this thread is laughable.

Danno 05-07-2013 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Boutte (Post 501531)
Jenkins isn't going anywhere. I still think he can become a very good safety. I've given up on him becoming a star but that doesn't mean he's worthless. One of the worst players in the NFL? That's just ignorant.

Vacarro hasn't stepped foot on the field and some of you are anointing his the second coming of Ronnie Lott. The silliness in this thread is laughable.

Boutte, its not just this thread. Absurdities are rampant in just about every thread lately.

It must just be off-season venting gone wild.

darksoul35 05-07-2013 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Rell&Gold (Post 501075)
"He's gone from corner{which he cannot play}" What???? since when? He is a corner converted into safety thrown into 3 defensive schemes on the "Worse Defense" with little to NO pass rush and inconsistent CB play.

I believe if you put any corner or safety in the league in the same position it will be the same outcome if not worse. This defense is going to surprise a cracka this year. 13-3 makin it to the superbowl with a middle of the pack defense. WHODAT


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