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WhoDat!656 05-18-2013 10:11 PM

New Orleans Saints: Terron Armstead is Better Option at LT Than Charles Brown
 
The New Orleans Saints have an interesting positional battle coming up in OTA’s and training camp when rookie Terron Armstead takes on Charles Brown for the right to protect Drew Brees from the left tackle position.

Brown has been with the team for a few years now but has had to deal with injuries while sitting behind starter Jermon Bushrod. Armstead joined the Saints this offseason courtesy of the No. 75 overall pick in the 2013 NFL draft and is set to leapfrog Brown for multiple reasons.

Head coach Sean Payton has stressed how uneasy he is about the left tackle position in New Orleans all offseason long, and Brown has obviously read the quotes. As he told Nakia Hogan of NOLA.com, he’s ready to compete and win the starting job:

”It’s definitely time for me to step up and prove myself and prove that I can protect Drew back there,” Brown said Wednesday night at Ben Grubb’s charity softball game at Zephyr Field. The Saints’ defense beat the offense 10-2 in the game.

“It’s going to be really exciting,” Brown said. “Right now I’m just trying to get out there and be the best I can and perfect every play and just stay out there.”

Unfortunately for Brown, his battles with injuries and the raw potential of Armstead are not good signs for his chances of getting and holding onto the starting job.

Payton and Co. grabbed Armstead in the draft for a reason. If the staff had the utmost confidence in Brown, Armstead wouldn’t have been selected. Heck, the front office wouldn’t have picked up one of the biggest busts in NFL history in former second overall pick Jason Smith either.

Armstead is the right choice at left tackle based on his athleticism. At the NFL Scouting Combine, he ran a 4.7-second 40-yard dash and recorded a 34 ½-feet vertical leap. This is the type of athleticism the Saints need at the position in order to keep Brees on his feet.

The fact of the matter is, Brees has a habit of making his offensive linemen look better than they really are thanks to his exceptionally quick reads and release. With Brees at the heal, Armstead can rely on his raw athleticism to shut down pass-rushers just longenough for Brees to get rid of the ball. This will also allow him to develop in live action rather than while sitting on the bench and only seeing reps in practice.

Brown isn’t a horrible backup by any means, but Armstead should have a tight grip on the starting left tackle job by the time the regular season rolls around.

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hagan714 05-19-2013 03:36 AM

Re: New Orleans Saints: Terron Armstead is Better Option at LT Than Charles Brown
 
lmao. man i love this time of the year. reporters just board and looking for anything to report

even if terron starts i pray for drews health back there

jeanpierre 05-19-2013 06:18 AM

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Armstead's raw measureables are there - off the charts...

The three questions are...

Can the new offensive line staff coach him up to play this year?!?

Can he develop chemistry quickly with the other offensive linemen?!?

Can he handle the transition to the NFL level of talent?!?

dizzle88 05-19-2013 08:19 AM

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I think he will be the starter, Payton will get the coaching staff on his case every practice to demand great things out of him

homerj07 05-19-2013 08:54 AM

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I don't think he will start. But he may take over some time during the season

TheDeuce 05-19-2013 10:25 AM

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Starting a rookie at LT scares the hell out of me.

thefifthwall 05-19-2013 10:36 AM

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Should be ready to take over by the bye week. Til then Brown.

dizzle88 05-19-2013 10:59 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDeuce (Post 503547)
Starting a rookie at LT scares the hell out of me.

Jahri evans started at RG as a rookie, got to trust the decision SP makes

thebdj 05-19-2013 12:19 PM

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Agreed the stories are ridiculous at this time of the season.

I don't think we should be scared at the potential of any rookie starting any position. At the end of the day Matt Kalil started at LT for the Vikings last season, he was a rookie and he was superb! Now you may argue he was drafted much higher but at the end of the day if the coaches see the right traits in the player in the pre-season, where they were drafted and whether or not they are a rookie is irrelevant.

Not convinced that we will see him take over in the middle of the season. There's no point starting Brown and assuming Armstead will come in at some point. You may as well let him play!

And I do very much agree with the comment about not drafting him if we were not worried about the LT position. We had a limited board of picks and we were in no position to use a 3rd rounder just to 'generate come competition at camp'. I think we have drafted the guy with the genuine belief that he is absolutely going head to head with Brown and has every shot at starting.

Let's not forget either that nobody is questioning Brown's ability, just his durability. The guy can play. He just struggles to stay healthy.

Rugby Saint II 05-19-2013 01:39 PM

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Let's not count Smith out so quickly. He was a 1st rounder for a reason.......I know he's been a bust but he's here and will get as much of a chance as either one of those two to start. I didn't know anything about him before he came here but he has potential and this might be the place for him........we do wonders with retreads. I'm pulling for the big guy. Hell, I'm pulling for all of them.
Now, let's address the RT!

Danno 05-19-2013 03:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by homerj07 (Post 503545)
I don't think he will start. But he may take over some time during the season

I agree. I think Brown is our best option to start, but likely won't last a full season.

If its early, I think Jones or Smith steps in, but if its mid-season or later I think Armstead may be ready.

The Dude 05-19-2013 03:54 PM

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The fact that there is even talk, even if it only in the media of a late round rookie starting at tackle scares me. A lot.

NonieT 05-19-2013 04:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 503564)
Let's not count Smith out so quickly. He was a 1st rounder for a reason.......I know he's been a bust but he's here and will get as much of a chance as either one of those two to start. I didn't know anything about him before he came here but he has potential and this might be the place for him........we do wonders with retreads. I'm pulling for the big guy. Hell, I'm pulling for all of them.
Now, let's address the RT!

He was a 2nd rounder!

Danno 05-19-2013 04:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NonieT (Post 503575)
He was a 2nd rounder!

He was actually the 2nd pick overall.

Rugby Saint II 05-19-2013 07:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 503577)
He was actually the 2nd pick overall.

Atta boy Danno.......................keep 'em straight.:bng:

darksoul35 05-19-2013 09:43 PM

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I just dont understand why it matters so much how high a tackle can jump or how fast he can run. I just want someone who can pass block. It wouldnt hurt to be able to run block either.

Crusader 05-20-2013 02:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 503551)
Jahri evans started at RG as a rookie, got to trust the decision SP makes

Playing guard however is a much different animal. At guard you have a fist fight in a phone booth, very limited space you need to take care of and guys on both sides which helps a lot. At tackle and especially to the left it is wide open spaces and a track meet in all that space.

Throw Armstead in there from day one if he is atleast 90% as good as Brown.

FinSaint 05-20-2013 03:05 AM

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Brown, Smith, and Armstead - I do think there will be a good starter among them at LT, but I'm rooting for Brown after all of the adversity he has faced during his time with the Saints.

Marlboro Man 05-20-2013 05:44 PM

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Things change every season. We actually have 2 tackle spots up for grabs. While I like Strief, and understand that he was playing injured most of last season, Brown looked really good in Strief's spot until he once again got injured. He does a better job with the speed rushers and anchors pretty well against the bull rush too. In the event Armstead wins the starting LT spot that doesn't mean that Brown can't win the RT spot if he can beat out a healthy Strief. Any way you look at it, the competition is going to make this O-Line better next year. Our offense is already lethal, could you imagine how sick it would be if we finally had a complete offensive line to protect Drew and give him even 2 more seconds in the pocket?

Marlboro Man 05-20-2013 05:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by darksoul35 (Post 503598)
I just dont understand why it matters so much how high a tackle can jump or how fast he can run. I just want someone who can pass block. It wouldnt hurt to be able to run block either.

How high they can jump I would think would transcend to their ability to block or dive block on an outside run or screen so I think that's important. Their speed is used for the same reasons as well as trapping and pulling to open holes in the run game so I just think those measurable s are indeed important to the position of OT.

Danno 05-20-2013 05:54 PM

Re: New Orleans Saints: Terron Armstead is Better Option at LT Than Charles Brown
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by darksoul35 (Post 503598)
I just dont understand why it matters so much how high a tackle can jump or how fast he can run. I just want someone who can pass block. It wouldnt hurt to be able to run block either.

I think its simply another measure of overall agility and athletic ability. Tackles require that more so than OG's and OC's.

Seer1 05-20-2013 09:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 503631)
Playing guard however is a much different animal. At guard you have a fist fight in a phone booth, very limited space you need to take care of and guys on both sides which helps a lot. At tackle and especially to the left it is wide open spaces and a track meet in all that space.

Throw Armstead in there from day one if he is atleast 90% as good as Brown.

"Fist fight in a phone booth" -I like that!

QBREES9 05-20-2013 09:57 PM

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The best man will get the job.

SmashMouth 05-23-2013 07:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by QBREES9 (Post 503807)
The best man will get the job.

With Brown recent injury, does that mean we have a new starter?


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