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WhoDat!656 05-24-2013 09:21 PM

OTA Position Spotlight: Lewis can beat out Greer
 
In the team’s first week of organized team activities, Keenan Lewis started with the first team and made a case for a starting position at defensive back. If veteran Jabari Greer doesn’t step up in training camp, he’ll lose his starting job.

Last season, fans were livid with a Saints pass defense that allowed nearly 300 yards passing per game last year. The names to blame? Defensive backs Patrick Robinson and Jabari Greer.

Greer and Robinson both stand at 5-foot-11 and both struggled mightily last year in pass coverage. They both managed to get three interceptions last year, but Robinson posted 18 passes defended to Greer’s 13 passes defended.

Greer is 31 years old, losing a couple of steps in terms of his speed, and coming off a season where the entire defense is being scrutinized. The Saints acquired Keenan Lewis in the off-season as well and he definitely has the ability to take away one of those top corner spots.

Lewis is four years younger and about 20 pounds heavier than Greer. That’s important against strong receivers in the NFC South like Atlanta’s Roddy White and Carolina’s Steve Smith. He wasn’t a starter in Pittsburgh but that didn’t stop him from defending 23 passes last year for the Steelers.

He isn’t significantly taller than Greer but displays better leaping ability to attack the ball while it is in the air than Greer did last year. Every inch helps against NFC South receivers like Atlanta’s Julio Jones and Tampa Bay’s Vincent Jackson.

In the first day of OTA’s, Lewis started with the first team and displayed his ability to break up passes and even came away with an interception. While head coach Sean Payton will be the first to tell you not to put any stock in Lewis starting with the first team, you’d be crazy to think that Lewis’ performance didn’t catch his eye.

It’s still May and nobody (outside of quarterback Drew Brees) has won their position yet. After this first OTA session however, the stock for Keenan Lewis is on the rise.

OTA Position Spotlight: Lewis can beat out Greer - Who Dat Dish

Seer1 05-24-2013 09:45 PM

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Can Greer beat out P-Rob?

saintsfan1976 05-24-2013 10:07 PM

Re: OTA Position Spotlight: Lewis can beat out Greer
 
Don't discredit Greer. He's still a starting caliber CB and at some point this season, we'll need him to be such.

Choupique 05-24-2013 10:10 PM

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sure is nice to see some loyalty from a fan.

halloween 65 05-24-2013 10:10 PM

Re: OTA Position Spotlight: Lewis can beat out Greer
 
P-Rob is going have to man-up or we may have a weak side, my question is if he doesn't do it who will?

The Dude 05-24-2013 10:54 PM

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I think Greer did as good as could be expected with the overall horrible defense we had last year. He is a starter in this league and either one of those two guys will make strong depth even if they don't start.

jnormand 05-24-2013 11:01 PM

Re: OTA Position Spotlight: Lewis can beat out Greer
 
Why take Greer out? Take P-Rob out! Greer is better and I trust him a lot more than Robinson.

jeanpierre 05-25-2013 04:05 AM

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Look, Robinson is like Jenkins, we've seen Robinson make some spectacular plays - unfortunately the spectacularly bad more often than spectacularly good...

But he's had three defensive coordinators/philosophies in his short career?!?

Now he's a pro and a first round selection so he's expected to adjust and get-r-done...

But I'd be a little open-minded and allow this "competition mentality" for each job that Coach Payton and staff have begun with this offseason to shake the rust off and get the best players into the best position for the best possible "fits" for the 2013 season...

It will make everyone better and accountable...

And should Greer evolve to become a third, rotational cornerback then we'll have the best in the league at that position and we will not love Jabari any less than we hold him now...

Competition is a good thing...

cars4dylan 05-25-2013 04:23 AM

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Greer playing hurt last year was still better than Robinson even spotted the 5-6 yrs of youth.

I think Robinson will find himself lucky to be on the roster when the season starts. Who knows, maybe Coach Ryan schools him in some miraculous way and he learns to cover a WR (but I doubt it). He's just so out of position to often, an occasional INT doesn't make up for the other blunders in a game.

Seer1 05-25-2013 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by cars4dylan (Post 504593)
Greer playing hurt last year was still better than Robinson even spotted the 5-6 yrs of youth.

I think Robinson will find himself lucky to be on the roster when the season starts. Who knows, maybe Coach Ryan schools him in some miraculous way and he learns to cover a WR (but I doubt it). He's just so out of position to often, an occasional INT doesn't make up for the other blunders in a game.

That'd actually be more McGriff and he's being talked up to be one of the best in the biz. Gotta be better than the DB coach we didn't have last year.

darksoul35 05-25-2013 07:27 PM

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We need to help these guys out and rush the QB. They had their share of faults but it surely wasnt just bad DB play.

K Major 05-25-2013 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by darksoul35 (Post 504647)
We need to help these guys out and rush the QB. They had their share of faults but it surely wasnt just bad DB play.

+1 and so true. You can't expect corners to be able to hang with those WR's forever HOWEVER P Robinson has to play much better. Last year was last year and its time for him to find his MOJO.

If Greer can stay healthy, I think he will be just fine.

hagan714 05-26-2013 04:33 AM

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why are people still hung up on rating the starting cb 1 or 2? the pass happy offense the nfl has created makes ranking the that way as stupid SS vs FS debate. all of them are the same for the most part.

the real question who will be the starting pair.

Lewis and Greer will be our starting CB baring a miracle arising from the turf at camp.

Rugby Saint II 05-26-2013 09:32 PM

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Greer is still our best CB........period.

Seer1 05-26-2013 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 504782)
Greer is still our best CB........period.

I hope not and that's a good thing.

homerj07 05-27-2013 07:30 AM

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Here's an idea - put the best players on the field

skymike 05-27-2013 07:38 AM

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Im with those of you who say Jabari still has it. He's still talented, but cant
chase down the receivers all day, while the QB stands there comfortably.

Its the pass rush.

|Mitch| 05-27-2013 09:36 AM

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I think Greer starts opposite Lewis, but he's not the best CB we have...

Keenan showed he has better coverage skills last year in Pittsburgh

TheOak 05-27-2013 09:59 AM

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Ill take a consistent 6 any day over an 8 one week and a 4 the next. The remaining 10 players on defense feel the same way, they know what to cover.


If you want loyalty buy a dog. I want what these guys are paid handsomely to produce... Championships!


Ill bet if you asked Greer he would say the same thing. Going to the Super Bowl on the bench is better than losing and starting because of seniority or loyalty.

We started the best 22 in 2009 because we had not won a SB, the only way to get back there is to once again start the best 22.

alleycat_126 05-28-2013 02:16 AM

Re: OTA Position Spotlight: Lewis can beat out Greer
 
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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 504687)
why are people still hung up on rating the starting cb 1 or 2? the pass happy offense the nfl has created makes ranking the that way as stupid SS vs FS debate. all of them are the same for the most part.

the real question who will be the starting pair.

Lewis and Greer will be our starting CB baring a miracle arising from the turf at camp.

I won't call it a miracle, how about I call it.... Calling my shot which is Jabari Greer won't be starting this season. Corey White will beat out both Jabari and Patrick Robinson....

Marlboro Man 05-28-2013 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 504566)
Can Greer beat out P-Rob?

There's this little girl in 1st grade over here that can beat out Patrick Robinson, just sayin.:D

Seer1 05-28-2013 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Marlboro Man (Post 505074)
There's this little girl in 1st grade over here that can beat out Patrick Robinson, just sayin.:D

Hahaha!

Seriously though, we have us a defensive backfield coach this year. I'm willing to give Patrick another go, see what he really has.


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