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WhoDat!656 06-17-2013 07:53 PM

Who's Hot and Who's Not, Post Mini Camp Edition
 
The Saints closed their mini camps and voluntary offseason workouts, which featured perfect attendance, and I thought this would be a good time to revisit "who's hot" and "who's not". Here's five players from each category who, at this stage, have stood out as performing well or poorly. The Saints' full training camp starts in late July and that will dictate roster spots more than anything... this was more about implementation.

WHO'S HOT:

1. Jimmy Graham - So far he's been the talk of the offseason, looking rejuvinated and healthy after his wrist issues of a season ago. He's catching the balls smoothly and because he's in a contract year you know he's going to want to make a huge impact. I expect very big things from Graham this season.

2. Charles Brown - He rebounded nicely from being banged up early on to making his way back up to the starting unit and looking the part. When he's in there everyone has been impressed with how he's handled the position. Maybe he's coming into his own? He's definitely a guy to keep an eye on. Remember when Jermon Bushrod was handed the LT spot it was a huge concern and no one was sure he would handle it. Hopefully Brown is ready to step up, but this mini camp went a small way towards proving that.

3. Drew Brees - How can I not include him on here? We're spoiled by his greatness to where it's become an expectation, but he continues to deliver at that same level that makes the Saints a serious contender year in, year out.

4. Isa Abdul-Quddus - He continues to show off superior ball skills and has great anticipation with the ball in the air. I expect him to stand out with no pads on because he's best reading the ball in the air so we'll see how he develops but at some point if he keeps this up you have to give him serious consideration for the starting free safety spot.

5. Kenyon Coleman - Rob Ryan obviously loves him, calling him the best 3-4 end run defender in the league. He's been running with the 1's consistently and seems to have already cemented his place on this defense.

honorable mentions: Rufus Johnson, Luke McCown, Ryan Griffin, Mike Higgins.

WHO'S NOT:

1. David Hawthorne - Despite the linebacking core adding an extra starting spot thanks to a new scheme, and Victor Butler getting injured and likely being out of the season, Hawthorne can't seem to crack the starting lineup. In fact, he's often not running out there with the 2's. He's quickly becoming a major free agency bust.

2. Mark Ingram - He was responsible for tearing Victor Butler's ACL by running a little too violently without pads. Not only that, but he's been working with the third team almost exclusively, which suggest the Saints may rely on Pierre Thomas more heavily this season.

3. Joe Morgan - The DUI was one of the big stories of mini camp. He has the 3rd receiver spot all but handed to him on a silver platter and for him to mess with that opportunity and make a mistake like that is incredibly stupid.

4. Kenny Stills - The rookie receiver has struggled and done very little to stand out to this point. Nick Toon seems to be far ahead of him at this point, as are a few other receivers battling for a roster spot. He seems destined for a redshirt first season.

5. Jason Smith - This is the high drafted veteran's last chance to show he can live up to his original hype, and so far Brown and Terron Armstead have largely gotten reps ahead of him.

Saints Nation: Who's Hot and Who's Not, Post Mini Camp Edition

|Mitch| 06-17-2013 08:11 PM

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Means nothing until they actually put the pads on...

AllSaints 06-17-2013 08:21 PM

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exactly but... I believe n the Mark Ingram statement Look for PT to be the ground n pound running game...

Seer1 06-17-2013 08:43 PM

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Haven't heard Coleman's name come up much in the threads....

homerj07 06-17-2013 08:46 PM

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Hmm that sucks about Ingram. He should have grown up some since college

rezburna 06-17-2013 08:54 PM

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Damn it Hawthorne....get it together.

Ingram....don't let me down this year.

saintsfan1976 06-17-2013 08:57 PM

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Now Ingram gets the blame for Butler's injury? WTF???

Danno 06-17-2013 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by homerj07 (Post 508554)
Hmm that sucks about Ingram. He should have grown up some since college

What?

Marlboro Man 06-18-2013 12:16 PM

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Some players are practice players and some players are game day players, and then there the players that stand out no matter what the team is doing, practice, pre-season or live game action. Those are the playmaker that every team needs. I unfortunately have not had a chance to even watch a practice and will have to rely on preseason to form an opinion of the players but I think this is on paper is one of the best hauls of talent that this team has seen in years.

Rugby Saint II 06-18-2013 03:37 PM

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I was thinking that Smith might play well enough that they would move him to the RT spot. Brown will probably win the starting spot but it's likely he won't last long and we'll be seeing Armstead. I want a new starting RT.........but can we afford to start two new players on the Oline and still maintain continuity?

TheOak 06-18-2013 04:09 PM

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Nothing really matters until week 1

jnormand 06-18-2013 05:32 PM

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Um...Ingram isn't hot because he injured Butler's knee by "running to aggressively". Sounds fine to me. I want to see him run that way. That doesn't sound like a problem to me.

The Dude 06-18-2013 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 508727)
Um...Ingram isn't hot because he injured Butler's knee by "running to aggressively". Sounds fine to me. I want to see him run that way. That doesn't sound like a problem to me.

Working with the 3's does though. Anyway, its put up or shut up time for him.

FinSaint 06-18-2013 11:00 PM

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I do hope Hawthorne will be able to pick it up because he was a monster in Seattle before coming over to NOLA.

3-4 might not be the best fit for him though, but if he manages to stay healthy, he might just have a chance to take the field with the first string at some point in the season.

jeanpierre 06-19-2013 12:22 AM

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I'll be the first one to say that I've been and am critical of the move to bring Mark Ingram to the Saints...

Didn't think he was worth the draft picks to get him; don't care for the way he's been used considering the effort made to bring him to the Saints...

Expect more production from a first round pick running back; and am still wanting...

That said - How in Sam Hill do you blame him for Victor Butler's injury?!?

Does this writer have specific knowledge that Ingram intentionally injured Butler?!?

I think Ingram makes HUGE Steps to the level that his drafting warranted...

But to say he's not hot because of the Ingram-Butler collision and subsequent injury is whacked...


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