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Beastmode 06-25-2013 11:58 PM

Re: Is Mark Ingram A Bad Fit for the Saints' Offense Style Wise?
 
Last year was not his fault. No RB would do well in that situation of being pigeon holed running the exact same play over and over. Before he got hurt, I think we will see that emege again. He was leaping over people and showing linemen in the back to squeeze out a few more yards. Can't do that stuff when you know they are going to get piled on every single carry.

ProMallNinja 06-26-2013 08:50 AM

Re: Is Mark Ingram A Bad Fit for the Saints' Offense Style Wise?
 
If a "feature back" that requires 15-20 carries a game to make an impact does not fit our style of offense then why in the hell did Coach Payton trade up to get him? Riddle me that... That's a silly assumption to make about a guy that has not had an offseason under Coach Payton. There's a reason why he was drafted, and, if he can stay healthy, we will see why this season. Be patient and optimistic because the greatest offensive mind in the NFL is stirring the pot again. :-)

Beastmode 06-26-2013 09:13 AM

Re: Is Mark Ingram A Bad Fit for the Saints' Offense Style Wise?
 
He'll be fine. He's a good RB and it was a good pick considering he dropped down as far as he did. Get him some different looks and screens and play to his strengths.

SaintsBro 06-26-2013 09:20 AM

Re: Is Mark Ingram A Bad Fit for the Saints' Offense Style Wise?
 
I have said this before, but I just don't feel like we have really seen what Sean Payton wants to do with Mark Ingram yet. That whole ludicrously ugly thing we saw last year, of always giving him the ball when he's in the game, and him bashing into the line and falling down for 2 yards? Over and over and over? I am convinced of it, in my soul, that's NOT what Payton brought him here to do. There is something else in store for him, to me it's a work in progress, and we haven't unpacked the Transformer robot that is Mark Ingram, yet.

The Saints have a long history of going VERY easy on their rookies, so his first year it didn't really count that he didn't amount to very much. Then 2012? No Payton. That was Pete Carmichael, from March until the last play of the season. Carmichael turned out to be weird in a lot of ways.

My original take on Mark Ingram was that he is not a "right now" player, he is the future -- he is the Saints running game AFTER Pierre Thomas, the same way that Pierre was what Payton saw as the future after Deuce. I beleive Sean Payton has a vision of a future power running game, that will extend Drew's arm life and solve the Saints' "problems" of scoring too quickly and having a perennially s***ty defense.

Papa Voodoo 06-26-2013 01:54 PM

Re: Is Mark Ingram A Bad Fit for the Saints' Offense Style Wise?
 
Mike Bell was a feature back before coming to the Saints. He runs similar to Ingram and we had a good ground game that year :P We need to throw to Ingram a bit, but he should still be able to run when the D knows he will be running. Steve Jackson has done it for years.

Beastmode 06-26-2013 04:21 PM

Re: Is Mark Ingram A Bad Fit for the Saints' Offense Style Wise?
 
He's no Steve Jackson or Turner and he even admitted when he was drafted that he's not that guy.

halloween 65 06-26-2013 09:56 PM

Re: Is Mark Ingram A Bad Fit for the Saints' Offense Style Wise?
 
I personally would have liked to see Ingram and Ivory in the backfield together, I feel like that might have been a tandam that could have closed out a many of games and physically abused a D . I think Ingram needs his ying to go with his yang and he will be fine.

hagan714 06-26-2013 10:48 PM

Re: Is Mark Ingram A Bad Fit for the Saints' Offense Style Wise?
 
if he does not become part of the passing game he will repeat the past 3 years.

we do not have the line to run the ball down peoples throats when they stack the box and know it is a run.

it just aint far to mark.

Jack Vegas 06-26-2013 11:13 PM

Re: Is Mark Ingram A Bad Fit for the Saints' Offense Style Wise?
 
I loved the way Ingram played late last year. He looked fast and confident.


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