The curse continues...

saintfan · 09-25-2004, 07:53 PM

Consider - the Saints keep Grady at league minimum and use their two first rounders to pick Trufant instead of Sully. What changes?? The secondary is improved, you don\'t have to give up two picks and more money than Trufant is gettnig paid to find a guy like McKenzie, and your line play is no worse, as Sullivan certainly hasn\'t played much better that Grady since he got here, now has he?

You have the luxory of hindsight now don\'t you? Therin lies the spin.

saintz08 · 09-25-2004, 10:14 PM

You have the luxory of hindsight now don\'t you? Therin lies the spin.

It is all hindsight with the copy cat coach ....

Ravens do it with the xtra lunch bunch , and Hasbeen has to go out and get a lard butt for the line , of course in his infinite stupidity he forgot a Ray Lewis type linebacker in the equation .....

This years theme , keep the current players and do not let another ex-Saint take another team to the play offs .....

[Edited on 26/9/2004 by saintz08]

WhoDat · 09-25-2004, 10:52 PM

You have the luxory of hindsight now don\'t you?

WEAK! Yeah, I have hindsight to show me that what I said AT THE TIME was right. Or did I not think that the Saints should have drafted Trufant? Did I not harp about how good Grady\'s play was in GB after they cut him b/c I thought it was at very least stupid to cut him midseason? Yeah, I\'ve got hindsight to show that my initial feelings about the moves you\'re supporting were wrong from the start. You call that spin - the rest of the world calls it proof.

saintfan · 09-26-2004, 08:50 AM

No one ever said Grady was God\'s gift, but I will say I TOLD YOU SO AGAIN!!!

You\'ve got it all worked out in your head...how that scenario should have played out. I\'m not supporting a move here. Nowhere in my post have I \"supported a move\". I\'m saying you never had that scenario worked out in your head.

What, precisely, \"AT THE TIME\" was it that you said that was \"right\"? Do tell.

WhoDat · 09-26-2004, 09:07 AM

1) We should have drafted Trufant.
2) Grady was not the cancer that Haslett made him out to be (though there were definitely some problems). The guy had talent and could be a contributor for less money in a rotation than could the other alternatives we had midseason that year or for the Georgia D-linemen I joked about us drafting. Oops, not such a joke huh?

What is most fun for me is how you always have me defending my mostly right or right positions. Didn\'t you think that the Sullivan move was a great on and didn\'t you tell us all that we didn\'t need a CB this offseason... and last offseason... and the offseason before that? Explain that logic for me would you?

saintfan · 09-26-2004, 09:18 AM

Didn\'t you think that the Sullivan move was a great on and didn\'t you tell us all that we didn\'t need a CB this offseason... and last offseason... and the offseason before that? Explain that logic for me would you?

Ummm, in a word, no. I didn\'t. Further, I don\'t recall Haz saying Grady was a cancer. Did he? When? He didn\'t follow the rules...as I recall...and you call him a cancer. Why is that? What is the point you\'re trying to make?

I would have liked to have Trufant. Sully hasnt\' worked out...so far. On this we agree, but I didn\'t see into the future regarding Grady Jackson scenario you described, and I don\'t beleive you did either.

WhoDat · 09-26-2004, 09:28 AM

OK Saintfan, I was 100% in theory and 50% right in practice. I\'ll take that over 0% right anyday.

saintfan · 09-26-2004, 09:56 AM

Perhpas...but it was after the fact.

09-25-2004, 07:53 PM	#11
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	The curse continues... Consider - the Saints keep Grady at league minimum and use their two first rounders to pick Trufant instead of Sully. What changes?? The secondary is improved, you don\'t have to give up two picks and more money than Trufant is gettnig paid to find a guy like McKenzie, and your line play is no worse, as Sullivan certainly hasn\'t played much better that Grady since he got here, now has he? You have the luxory of hindsight now don\'t you? Therin lies the spin.

09-25-2004, 10:14 PM	#12
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	The curse continues... You have the luxory of hindsight now don\'t you? Therin lies the spin. It is all hindsight with the copy cat coach .... Ravens do it with the xtra lunch bunch , and Hasbeen has to go out and get a lard butt for the line , of course in his infinite stupidity he forgot a Ray Lewis type linebacker in the equation ..... This years theme , keep the current players and do not let another ex-Saint take another team to the play offs ..... [Edited on 26/9/2004 by saintz08]
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09-25-2004, 10:52 PM	#13
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	The curse continues... You have the luxory of hindsight now don\'t you? WEAK! Yeah, I have hindsight to show me that what I said AT THE TIME was right. Or did I not think that the Saints should have drafted Trufant? Did I not harp about how good Grady\'s play was in GB after they cut him b/c I thought it was at very least stupid to cut him midseason? Yeah, I\'ve got hindsight to show that my initial feelings about the moves you\'re supporting were wrong from the start. You call that spin - the rest of the world calls it proof.
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09-26-2004, 08:50 AM	#14
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	The curse continues... No one ever said Grady was God\'s gift, but I will say I TOLD YOU SO AGAIN!!! You\'ve got it all worked out in your head...how that scenario should have played out. I\'m not supporting a move here. Nowhere in my post have I \"supported a move\". I\'m saying you never had that scenario worked out in your head. What, precisely, \"AT THE TIME\" was it that you said that was \"right\"? Do tell.

09-26-2004, 09:07 AM	#15
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	The curse continues... 1) We should have drafted Trufant. 2) Grady was not the cancer that Haslett made him out to be (though there were definitely some problems). The guy had talent and could be a contributor for less money in a rotation than could the other alternatives we had midseason that year or for the Georgia D-linemen I joked about us drafting. Oops, not such a joke huh? What is most fun for me is how you always have me defending my mostly right or right positions. Didn\'t you think that the Sullivan move was a great on and didn\'t you tell us all that we didn\'t need a CB this offseason... and last offseason... and the offseason before that? Explain that logic for me would you?
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09-26-2004, 09:18 AM	#16
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	The curse continues... Didn\'t you think that the Sullivan move was a great on and didn\'t you tell us all that we didn\'t need a CB this offseason... and last offseason... and the offseason before that? Explain that logic for me would you? Ummm, in a word, no. I didn\'t. Further, I don\'t recall Haz saying Grady was a cancer. Did he? When? He didn\'t follow the rules...as I recall...and you call him a cancer. Why is that? What is the point you\'re trying to make? I would have liked to have Trufant. Sully hasnt\' worked out...so far. On this we agree, but I didn\'t see into the future regarding Grady Jackson scenario you described, and I don\'t beleive you did either.

09-26-2004, 09:28 AM	#17
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	The curse continues... OK Saintfan, I was 100% in theory and 50% right in practice. I\'ll take that over 0% right anyday.
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09-26-2004, 09:56 AM	#18
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	The curse continues... Perhpas...but it was after the fact.