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Danno 06-29-2013 09:04 AM

Re: Which Zach Strief Will Show Up in 2013?
 
Garbage? Someone knows very little about football or Zach Strief.

rezburna 06-29-2013 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 509855)
Garbage? Someone knows very little about football or Zach Strief.

He's garbage. He should be replaced. He's been a starter for two years. Never played a whole season. Was used as an extra lineman when running the ball before Stinchcomb retired because that's what he's good at. Routinely allows immediate edge rush pressure. Drew is glorious in the pocket, and are guards allow him to step up and avoid.


He's garbage. Better yet, he's poo. Maybe that'll make y'all feel better. He needs to be a back up.

Boutte 06-29-2013 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 509862)
He's garbage. He should be replaced. He's been a starter for two years. Never played a whole season. Was used as an extra lineman when running the ball before Stinchcomb retired because that's what he's good at. Routinely allows immediate edge rush pressure. Drew is glorious in the pocket, and are guards allow him to step up and avoid.


He's garbage. Better yet, he's poo. Maybe that'll make y'all feel better. He needs to be a back up.

I hope you're just ignorant because you can fix ignorant. Stupidity is though is incurable.

rezburna 06-29-2013 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Boutte (Post 509864)
I hope you're just ignorant because you can fix ignorant. Stupidity is though is incurable.

:) what a cute little joke. Hes still garbage! Injuries are curable, but the fact that he's garbage is not. Go watch some highlights. Focus on Strief. Wonderful in run blocking. Pass protection.....smh.

If he was so great we wouldn't have a thread with an article wondering which Strief will show up.

jeanpierre 06-29-2013 12:46 PM

Re: Which Zach Strief Will Show Up in 2013?
 
With the talent there, it'll be a good position battle if he's healthy...

I like Strief, but I think he's at his best as a Tackle Eligible/Utility Lineman...

That was a tough injury last season, but some guys are not 16+ game/season guys...

rezburna 06-29-2013 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 509873)
With the talent there, it'll be a good position battle if he's healthy...

I like Strief, but I think he's at his best as a Tackle Eligible/Utility Lineman...

That was a tough injury last season, but some guys are not 16+ game/season guys...

Bingo my friend.

Danno 06-29-2013 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 509875)
Bingo my friend.

So he's not garbage?

http://www.austinchronicle.com/binary/7a48/crawfish.jpg

rezburna 06-29-2013 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 509876)

He's garbage in the role he currently plays. I think you could get two sacks rushing against him. So could the crawfish.

Danno 06-29-2013 01:40 PM

Re: Which Zach Strief Will Show Up in 2013?
 
PFF Grades for OT's (both left and right)

2012 - 49th in the NFL (Groin injury all season)
2011 - 8th best in the NFL

From PFF...

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Zach Strief, OT, Saints
Sam Monson | June 16, 2012

Arguably, the least-heralded member of that high-octane, dominant offense is right tackle Zach Strief, but that should change because Strief is the New Orleans Saints’ Secret Superstar.


From that point on he was little more than a backup for the Saints for five seasons, though he also served as the New Orleans sixth offensive lineman/heavy tight end, and would see significant snaps in some games in this role. The occasional start he saw in relief of injured starters at tackle resulted in some mixed performances. They ranged from the very good to some clear struggles, but until 2011 he never had a chance to start more than one game at a time.

Like so many other players buried on depth charts, we never got to see what he could do in an extended run as a starter. Nonetheless, he was an important enough player for the Saints to keep him on the roster. After an injury-plagued 2010 season, the Saints opted to part ways with their long-time right tackle Jon Stinchcomb before 2011 began, and penciled in Strief as his replacement.



The 2011 Season

Strief’s season began with arguably the toughest test he would face all season as the Saints kicked off against Clay Matthews and the Green Bay Packers. Predictably enough, Strief had his poorest performance of the year, which would be one of only two efforts graded in the red all season.
He was beaten for a hit and four pressures that day, and had an additional hit that was nullified by a penalty. All but two of these pressures came from Matthews, who also got the better of the big man in the run game.

Things didn’t get much better in Week 2 when Strief coughed up a sack and four pressures to the Chicago Bears, though he was notably better blocking for the run. The following week, Strief went down with a knee injury after just 29 snaps against the Texans which threatened to end his season and derail his opportunity. He was sidelined until Week 9, with second-year man Charles Brown stepping in and taking his snaps. When he returned against the Buccaneers, Strief was rejuvenated and put together a string of impressive performances, going eight games without giving up either a sack or hit before surrendering both in the playoffs against the Lions.

During that stretch, Strief played the Falcons (twice), Giants, Lions, Vikings and Panthers, all of whom are able to deploy some fearsome pass rushers. None of them were able to get home against the big right tackle. This is the stretch of play that secured his spot as the starting right tackle going forward and was really an impressive run overall. His cumulative grade in that span of eight regular season games was +15.5, and he played every snap save for seven near the end of the Minnesota game.

At 6-foot-8 and 349 pounds, Strief has the size to match up with anybody at the NFL level, but he also developed as a pass-protector, showing a good ability to deal with smaller, quicker players that often cause havoc for big linemen. After getting a rude awakening from Clay Matthews in his first game of the season, Strief put on a display against several similar players, and never struggled to that degree again.

Strief is a great example of a player that hung around on an NFL roster just waiting for an opportunity to be more than simply a backup or practice squad filler. He paid his dues as an injury replacement and heavy-package tight end for years in the Saints’ offense, but 2011 was his shot to start and show what he could do. He embraced his chance, and despite an injury scare that threatened to torpedo his prospects before he had a chance to take it, he succeeded admirably.

Zach Strief earned himself the starting job with his performances in the past, and earned the right to keep it with his performances in 2011. If he can continue that level of play through sixteen games in 2012, we will be talking about Zach Strief as a potential Pro Bowl candidate by the end of the season. That’s not bad for a seventh-rounder out of Northwestern, and it’s why he is your Secret Superstar.

Doesn't sound like "garbage" to me.

Danno 06-29-2013 01:46 PM

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Oh looky here, "pass blocking grades for OT's in 2011...

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2011 Pass Blocking Efficiency, Offensive Tackles, Top 20
# Name Team Pass Block Snaps Total Pressure Allowed PBE
1 Harvey Dahl SL 200 6 97.8
2 Joe Thomas CLV 654 21 97.5
3 Andrew Whitworth CIN 582 20 97.3
4 David Stewart TEN 547 19 97.2
5 Jason Peters PHI 570 21 97.1
6 Demetrius Bell BUF 237 9 97.0
7 Sebastian Vollmer NE 205 8 96.7
8 Tyson Clabo ATL 635 28 96.5
9 Branden Albert KC 545 24 96.5
10 Bryan Bulaga GB 409 20 96.3
11 Tony Pashos CLV 478 22 96.2
12 Duane Brown HST 497 26 96.1
13 Marcus Gilbert PIT 453 21 96.1
14 Tyron Smith DAL 620 30 96.0
15 Trent Williams WAS 372 19 96.0
16 Andre Smith Jr. CIN 503 27 95.8
17 Erik Pears BUF 628 35 95.7
18 Michael Roos TEN 619 35 95.7
19 Zach Strief NO 433 25 95.6
20 Matt Light NE 602 35 95.5
Again, a top 20 OT in pass blocking efficiency is NOT garbage.


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