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WhoDat!656 07-06-2013 11:27 PM

The All Time Worst Saints Players in Team History (Offense, Part 1)
 
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stickman 07-07-2013 11:32 AM

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From Deadspin list: 53. Curtis DeLoatch; cornerback; Giants, Saints, Panthers; 2004-07: Save for covering and tackling, awfully good.


They forgot to mention that he recovered a Steve Gleason blocked punt and scored a touchdown.

Rugby Saint II 07-07-2013 04:56 PM

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Jason David was better than he is given credit for. His performance was poor but he didn't fit the system and was strictly a man corner.

Jack Vegas 07-07-2013 06:40 PM

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Those linebackers during the Haslett era: Hodge, Clemons, Allen, Fincher, Watson, etc. Darrin Smith was the only one worth a darn.

Also, ALEX MOLDEN! *puke*

Beastmode 07-07-2013 07:17 PM

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I was going to say Cam Cleeland but that man had some serious injuries that he still has not recovered from. You can do a search and read about it, kinda sad because he had one solid season then nothing.

My vote is for Alex Molden. All the talent in the world but would play a mile off of WR's. I wanted to close line him more than I wanted the Saints to win the game. Never could figure him out.

Lord_Saint83 07-07-2013 07:52 PM

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I would say kevin kaesviharn and fred thomas both were always a day late and a dollar short on the field, atm's


The end is nigh

44Champs 07-07-2013 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Vegas (Post 510451)
Those linebackers during the Haslett era: Hodge, Clemons, Allen, Fincher, Watson, etc. Darrin Smith was the only one worth a darn.

Also, ALEX MOLDEN! *puke*

I was surprised that Haslett w his linebacker background could never produce a good LB.

K Major 07-08-2013 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 (Post 510454)
I would say kevin kaesviharn and fred thomas both were always a day late and a dollar short on the field, atm's


The end is nigh

Yes Sir Fred Thomas was pretty damn bad.

rezburna 07-08-2013 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 510446)
Jason David was better than he is given credit for. His performance was poor but he didn't fit the system and was strictly a man corner.

he was zone. Tampa 2 under the colts to be exact.

jeanpierre 07-08-2013 06:33 AM

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Jason David was too small to be a man corner; he had a great season in a weak division Colts division...

Anyway, if this is offense, anyone that played with Archie Manning; the man's talent was off the charts then and the Saints FO never put any reasonable complements around him and when they got something (Wes Chandler) off they went...

I also put George Rogers and Chuck Muncie in the group because they let their narcotics ruin their play - and when good people were spending good money in the belief the team could be competitive...

MatthewT 07-08-2013 10:52 AM

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Richard Todd is another one who needs consideration. I do agree however that Heath Shuler was worse.

QBREES9 07-09-2013 12:11 AM

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Heath Shuler,,,, Man did i love him college. I wanted him to be great.

Jack Vegas 07-09-2013 01:12 AM

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Fred Thomas was only bad for one season at the end of his career, when his legs gave out because he was like 34 years old. He was solid to very good otherwise and a bright spot on some really bad defenses.

I think it's really unfair that he's remembered as a bad player because in fact the exact opposite was true. Especially considering he spent most of his career surrounded by trash like Josh Bullocks, Tebucky Jones, Jason Craft, etc.

dizzle88 07-09-2013 02:06 AM

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Jason craft, kevin kaesviharn, josh bullocks...I'm starting to get really bad flashbacks of their defensive play now

Rugby Saint II 07-09-2013 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 510465)
he was zone. Tampa 2 under the colts to be exact.

You're right.:p

Mind melt down......

rezburna 07-09-2013 08:31 PM

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When was the last time our defense was truly good? Our personnel was worse then it is now during our Super Bowl run. Sharper and Gregg deserve so much credit.

TheGambler 07-09-2013 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by stickman (Post 510434)
From Deadspin list: 53. Curtis DeLoatch; cornerback; Giants, Saints, Panthers; 2004-07: Save for covering and tackling, awfully good.


They forgot to mention that he recovered a Steve Gleason blocked punt and scored a touchdown.

Exactly...........now granted, I don't know (or care) what he did with the Giants or Panthers.....but what did he do with the Saints other than special teams? I'm guessing he wasn't a world-beater (aside from that one epic moment) since he only was with the Saints for 1 season....but did I miss any major moments on special teams where he looked terrible ?

I guess what I'm asking is...what would have put him on the "worst" list ? Decent or average, sure, but worst ?

Luda34 07-10-2013 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 510452)
I was going to say Cam Cleeland but that man had some serious injuries that he still has not recovered from. You can do a search and read about it, kinda sad because he had one solid season then nothing.

My vote is for Alex Molden. All the talent in the world but would play a mile off of WR's. I wanted to close line him more than I wanted the Saints to win the game. Never could figure him out.

I have agree Cleeland was suppose to be a solid TE and was a injure nightmare and Molden was just sorry.

TheOak 07-10-2013 10:01 AM

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With out looking at stats, my keyboard wants to add Martine Gramattica to the list.

vpheughan 07-10-2013 10:53 AM

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Don't forget that Cleeland was almost blinded in that hazing incident.

xan 07-10-2013 11:54 AM

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It is hard not to bulk together the entire rosters from 1967 through 1987, holding out a dozen or so players, and calling them the worst Saints of all-time. There were more than a few for whom thinking and breathing simultaneously were sufficient challenges.


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