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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by jeanpierre Glad to see that they set the bar so low for themselves... Considering what most underpaid heroes do on a daily basis, and for what GM's make as NFL executives - we should all expect better... ...

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Old 07-28-2013, 09:28 AM   #21
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Re: 1st Round Pick Draft Suckage

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Glad to see that they set the bar so low for themselves...

Considering what most underpaid heroes do on a daily basis, and for what GM's make as NFL executives - we should all expect better...

So I respectfully disagree that we have 'vastly unrealistic expectations'...

Sure 32 team fan pools are hopeful this time of year, managing a franchise isn't rocket science...

The fact of the matter is that nepostism and insulated job security contributes to recurrent team failures...
I don't think the figures listed are a matter of "setting the bar" based on opinion. The bar is set by the gathering of information over a period of time. These guys are not saying "I have a feeling we should hit on X number of guys". Information is gathered over an extended period of drafts and empirical evidence is given that shows the exact success rate of teams over that period. Actually, while it may not be "rocket science" exactly, there is quite a bit of scientific method involved in the process. I do not disagree that there is nepotism, but that is pretty much in any occupation these days.
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Old 07-28-2013, 10:07 AM   #22
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You would think that's objective.
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Biggest bust ever, Alex Molden!!! & Heyward
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And Meachem had 700+ yards and 9 td's, 600+ yards and 5 td's, and 600+ yards and 6 td's his last three years here. Only time he didn't have at least 600 yards was his rookie year. He was far from a joke or a bust. He's no Charles Rogers. His stats are right in line with Lance Moore.
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Biggest bust ever, Alex Molden!!! & Heyward
Jonathan Sullivan (who we gave two 1st rounders to move up for) makes those two look like HOF'ers.

I don't think a lot of people know what a draft bust really means.
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I don't think a lot of people know what a draft bust really means.
Ryan Leaf count?! Didn't play for the Saints, but has to be the biggest bust of all time.
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Ryan Leaf count?! Didn't play for the Saints, but has to be the biggest bust of all time.
Man..... It's a coin flip between Leaf and Russell for expectations vs compensation.

Look no further than Rickey Williams for what was given up for the opportunity to over compensate.
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So two players past their tenure in N.O. and one yet to put pads on used as examples.

What sort of answer are you looking for?
I wasn't looking for any kind of answer, nor was I suggesting that Kenny Vaccaro was a HoF player! I was merely pointing out that in the space of 24 hours, there were two reminders of how bad the Saints are at drafting in the first round! Seems to have sparked some debate anyway
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Saints rookie report: Kenny Vaccaro
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I don't think I've ever been as fired up about one of our 1st round picks as I am about this young man.

I'm totally out of control. I'm seeing Ed Reed and Troy Polamalu all rolled into one.
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