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Halo 08-17-2013 02:01 AM

Quick Takes: Saints sack Raiders in preseason again
 
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I will say it again: It is preseason, folks.

That said, you have to be impressed with how the New Orleans Saints starters performed in the first half. It was a vast improvement over last week though the competition was not very good, frankly. Sacks and stops were a good thing to see for Rob Ryan's defense. Completions and scores for Drew Brees and company were a welcome sight. Here are my quick takes from the Saints 28-20 win over the Raiders.

**For the second consecutive game, Thomas Morstead boomed the opening kickoff through the end zone. Garrett Hartley handled most kickoff duties after that one.

**Roman Harper, who often struggles in coverage, had blanket coverage on David Augsberry but Matt Flynn still fit it into the tight end for a 28 yard gain on third down on the opening possession of the game.

**Middle linebackers Ramon Humber and David Hawthorne combined to stop Darren McFadden cold on fourth-and-one from the Saints' 43-yard line. Humber played very well. He was flying to the football, playing with his pants on fire.

**It was good to see Garrett Hartley nail a 53-yard field goal. Hartley is due a breakout season, if he remains healthy in 2013. The 53-yard field goal matched Hartley's career long field goal, though this one was not official.

**Travaris Cadet's stock dropped dramatically. While it may not have been a fatal performance, two fumbles are unacceptable. Fool me once, you won't fool me twice. Khiry Robinson trended up once again with a very solid performance.

**Deep threat? How about Nick Toon? Great deep ball by Drew Brees. You have to be encouraged by the arm strength Brees has displayed. He threw a perfect deep fade to Kenny Stills (dropped) against Kansas City and dropped the ball in the bucket to Toon. By the way, it was former Saint Tracy Porter on the coverage. The Saints offered Porter a chance to return to New Orleans in the offseason. He chose former Saints assistant Dennis Allen and the Raiders, instead. Which team do you think has a better chance to win?

**Porter left the game injured after making a tackle of Stills early in the second quarter with a groin injury. That has been the story of Porter's career. He is injury prone, very fragile. His monumental plays in Saints history will never be forgotten.

**Humber came unblocked to level Flynn on a sack before Cameron Jordan whipped left tackle Alex Barron for a sack.

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dizzle88 08-17-2013 04:48 AM

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Our Run D is incredible, two straight weeks against very good running teams and weve stopped them dead, cant wait to see us do it in the regular season

Also who said Vaccaro missed tackles, no matter what type of tackle he attempted the ball carrier went down, he can wrap up and he can make a big hit

saintsfan1976 08-17-2013 06:41 AM

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Vaccaro cleaned McFadden's clock early on. Don't know if that was noted.

Run defense is great but as it stands, we are dead in the flats.

Ready to see Galette and Wilson back

|Mitch| 08-17-2013 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 517936)
Run defense is great but as it stands, we are dead in the flats.

We played the screens a lot better this game... I wouldn't call us dead...

halloween 65 08-17-2013 10:07 AM

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We played the screens a lot better this game... I wouldn't call us dead...

I agree!! This is where I have had my worries.

joker-saint 08-17-2013 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 517979)
I agree!! This is where I have had my worries.

What about the broken coverage in the secondary that left the raiders tight end wide open on the right side? If Flynn had another second, or this were a more elite QB that would have been good for 6. That area has always been a thorn in our side. This is the reason for picking up Keenan Lewis from Pitrsburgh. I am still waiting to see why he is worth so much after a very short NFL career. I feel like Revis would have been a better choice, or a rookie with the same potential. By the way Lewis stats were as follows: 1 tackle 0 assists. Is he worth the money? He was on the side that had blown coverage. You be the judge. Sure hope he fixes that. I had flash backs of Jason David on that play.

Danno 08-17-2013 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by joker-saint (Post 518039)
I am still waiting to see why he is worth so much after a very short NFL career. I feel like Revis would have been a better choice, or a rookie with the same potential. By the way Lewis stats were as follows: 1 tackle 0 assists. Is he worth the money? He was on the side that had blown coverage. You be the judge. Sure hope he fixes that. I had flash backs of Jason David on that play.

He's a CB. Those kind of stats are what you expect from a good CB.

ChrisXVI 08-17-2013 02:54 PM

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Keenan Lewis did look pretty bad on that TD pass where he was burned in man coverage.

Danno 08-17-2013 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 518046)
Keenan Lewis did look pretty bad on that TD pass where he was burned in man coverage.

He did blow it, but thats the only error I've seen him make so far. He'll be a good one.

Danno 08-17-2013 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by joker-saint (Post 518039)
I feel like Revis would have been a better choice, or a rookie with the same potential.


Revis signed a six-year contract worth $96 million, making him the highest paid defensive back in NFL history.[62] The Jets received the Buccaneers' 2013 first round pick (13th overall) and a 2014 fourth round conditional pick, which can become a third round pick.

On March 14, 2013, Lewis signed a five-year, $26.3 million dollar contract..

No way in hell Revis was an option for us. We could have signed 4 Keenan Lewis's for what the Bucs gave up.

ChrisXVI 08-17-2013 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 518049)
He did blow it, but thats the only error I've seen him make so far. He'll be a good one.

Agreed... I think that was probably the only time he's been really tested thus far so he was probably caught napping a bit.

Danno 08-17-2013 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 518052)
Agreed... I think that was probably the only time he's been really tested thus far so he was probably caught napping a bit.

Thats exactly what it looked like. I'd imagine he's gonna be ragged badly when they review the film. Might be the best thing to happen to him all camp. It'll keep him hungry.

TheOak 08-17-2013 03:21 PM

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I agree that I've seen enough of Cadet and ready to move on to Robinson. Cadet has had costly drops in regular season games also.

TheOak 08-17-2013 03:22 PM

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Was he burnt or was it blown coverage. It matters.

|Mitch| 08-17-2013 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 518060)
Was he burnt or was it blown coverage. It matters.

He bit on a double move...

dizzle88 08-17-2013 04:06 PM

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Keenan was supposed to have safety help from vacarro, but vacarro bit on the pump fake

Like danno said, film review will show him what he did wrong and the commentators and SP both mentioned as soon as it happened - vacarro was spoken to by coach mcgriff

joker-saint 08-17-2013 04:40 PM

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Vacarro is a beast!! I like the Greer, Lewis, Vacarro mix. I just hate to see missed assignments, and blown coverage. I an cerrain there will be adjustments, I just sceptical after last years performance. Im sure Lewis will fit in just fine, lets jyst hope he adjysts before the season starts. I expect he is going to be tested next week agaibst johnson. I will have a better picture of how he will fit in then.

halloween 65 08-17-2013 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by joker-saint (Post 518039)
What about the broken coverage in the secondary that left the raiders tight end wide open on the right side? If Flynn had another second, or this were a more elite QB that would have been good for 6. That area has always been a thorn in our side. This is the reason for picking up Keenan Lewis from Pitrsburgh. I am still waiting to see why he is worth so much after a very short NFL career. I feel like Revis would have been a better choice, or a rookie with the same potential. By the way Lewis stats were as follows: 1 tackle 0 assists. Is he worth the money? He was on the side that had blown coverage. You be the judge. Sure hope he fixes that. I had flash backs of Jason David on that play.

I was actually talking about the ILB's, on screen play coverage with the OLB's blitzing leaving the flats open, I thought they played well. I do agree on Lewis blown coverage, he and V both bit on a pump fake. I believe the Texans game will tell a lot about our secondary.

TheOak 08-17-2013 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 518064)
He bit on a double move...

That can happen yo he best of them. I remember Vaccaro saying he bit on one also last week or in the inter-squad scrimmage.

|Mitch| 08-17-2013 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by joker-saint (Post 518039)
I am still waiting to see why he is worth so much after a very short NFL career.

In his first season starting 16 games(last year), he led the league with 23 pass defenses. And we signed him to a 5 year 26 million contract, unlike Revis who signed a 6 year, 96 million contract. No way we could afford Revis, who is coming off a torn ACL last year, no way to tell if he will be the Revis of old...

Crusader 08-17-2013 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 518051)
Revis signed a six-year contract worth $96 million, making him the highest paid defensive back in NFL history.[62] The Jets received the Buccaneers' 2013 first round pick (13th overall) and a 2014 fourth round conditional pick, which can become a third round pick.

On March 14, 2013, Lewis signed a five-year, $26.3 million dollar contract..

No way in hell Revis was an option for us. We could have signed 4 Keenan Lewis's for what the Bucs gave up.

What? Isn't t this Madden where you can just trade for whomever you want?

homerj07 08-17-2013 08:50 PM

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For better or worse we are married to this defense!!

TheOak 08-18-2013 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by homerj07 (Post 518123)
For better or worse we are married to this defense!!

Because at the end of the day... It's what Sean wants.

Rugby Saint II 08-19-2013 12:59 PM

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Our defense has me cautiously optimistic.


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