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papz 08-21-2013 04:22 PM

Smith finding familiar roles in new Saints defense
 
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METAIRIE, La. — When the Saints' Will Smith burst through the line for his first sack of this preseason, he was lined up at the defensive end spot he's played the first nine years of his career, not at his new outside linebacker spot.

That doesn't mean the Saints are leaning toward making Smith a lineman again, coach Sean Payton said, but does mean the club will routinely play to Smith's established strengths as a pass rusher in its new 3-4 defense.

"If you take any one of these teams that are in a 3-4 front (three linemen, four linebackers), the minute you get into your (substitution) packages, these outside linebackers generally become ends in the pass rush," Payton said.

Smith's sack of Oakland starter Matt Flynn last Friday night came on what Payton said was a tackle-end stunt, in which the tackle slants wide to rush on the edge and the end cuts behind the tackle toward the inside.

For Smith, that play would be "very similar to what he's done for the last (nine) years," Payton said. "That was very familiar to him."

Drafted 18th overall by New Orleans in 2004, Smith lined up as a defensive end, with his hand on the ground, in a 4-3 front.

This season, he sometimes lines up standing upright, and sometimes gets down in a three-point stance as a traditional end might.

Although Smith potentially could get caught in some mismatches with quicker players while trying to cover short passes, the veteran defender has maintained that talk of his transition to a new position is overblown.

"The majority of the time I'm rushing the passer," Smith said. "Every now and then I drop back in coverage and try to guard those speedsters, but I don't do that much and I do what I've been doing the last nine years.

"I'm going to be rushing the passer, I'm going to be playing the run," Smith continued. "For the most part, I'm going to be doing the same thing I've always done and that's why I said it wasn't that big of a transition."


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Danno 08-21-2013 04:32 PM

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As long as he rarely covers, I'm fine.

TheOak 08-21-2013 04:34 PM

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Smiths established strength -Contract negotiations.

RockyMountainSaint 08-21-2013 04:59 PM

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Please pardon my skepticism, but he wasn't all that good in the 4-3 to begin with.

May as well try to get something positive from him.

RockyMountainSaint 08-21-2013 05:02 PM

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John DeShazier: Will Smith transition looks more solid by the day

|Mitch| 08-21-2013 05:02 PM

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I think we see 8+ sacks from him this year

RockyMountainSaint 08-21-2013 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 518944)
I think we see 8+ sacks from him this year

I hope you are prescient Mitch.

Beastmode 08-21-2013 05:05 PM

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No question Oak, Smith got one over on the Saints. He Star Capped our cap.

jeanpierre 08-21-2013 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Associated Press (Post 518928)
METAIRIE, La. — When the Saints' Will Smith burst through the line for his first sack of this preseason, he was lined up at the defensive end spot...doesn't mean the Saints are leaning toward making Smith a lineman again, ...but does mean the club will routinely play to Smith's established strengths as a pass rusher...

:rofl:

Danno 08-21-2013 05:51 PM

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I'm probably reaching, but its been a long time since Will Smith had a decent D-Lineman next to him. Maybe, just maybe...

1. Will Smith will reap the benefits of having Jordan/Hicks next to him.
2. Monkey's fly out my ass.

Vegas odds are 50/50.

K Major 08-21-2013 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 518944)
I think we see 8+ sacks from him this year

I can appreciate your exuberance but even with a new scheme and fresh faces around Smith, 8 sacks will be a stretch.

Danno 08-21-2013 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 518958)
I can appreciate your exuberance but even with a new scheme and fresh faces around Smith, 8 sacks will be a stretch.

Maybe not, he had 13 in 2009 and has averaged 6 since. Eight isn't a stretch at all, but its not all that impressive either.

halloween 65 08-21-2013 06:20 PM

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If Smith gets 8, Junior and Tes get 10 to 12 each(maybe more) our players on the 3 man front get 3-4 each our IBL get 7-8 in total and our secondary gets a total of 8 depending on how often they blitz Harper and V, we could end up looking good. I think those # could be low. I believe the front 3 might do a lot more.

TheOak 08-21-2013 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 518955)
I'm probably reaching, but its been a long time since Will Smith had a decent D-Lineman next to him. Maybe, just maybe...

1. Will Smith will reap the benefits of having Jordan/Hicks next to him.
2. Monkey's fly out my ass.

Vegas odds are 50/50.

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Wear them backwards to they have a clear ascent path.

homerj07 08-21-2013 08:28 PM

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I would love 8 out of him. I can only see 4 at best. I would love to be wrong though.

saintfan 08-21-2013 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 518955)
I'm probably reaching, but its been a long time since Will Smith had a decent D-Lineman next to him. Maybe, just maybe...

1. Will Smith will reap the benefits of having Jordan/Hicks next to him.
2. Monkey's fly out my ass.

Vegas odds are 50/50.

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/i...WDKmKQKUQeJ94Q

Crusader 08-22-2013 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 518955)
I'm probably reaching, but its been a long time since Will Smith had a decent D-Lineman next to him. Maybe, just maybe...

1. Will Smith will reap the benefits of having Jordan/Hicks next to him.
2. Monkey's fly out my ass.

Vegas odds are 50/50.

My only question is; How did you get them to fly in there?



:-D

RockyMountainSaint 08-22-2013 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 519040)
My only question is; How did you get them to fly in there?



:-D

I saw a Discovery Channel special on this subject.

First, you place six bananas up your...

Never mind, I don't want to spoil it in case someone DVRed it and is gonna watch the show later.

TheOak 08-22-2013 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint (Post 519041)
I saw a Discovery Channel special on this subject.

First, you place six bananas up your...

Never mind, I don't want to spoil it in case someone DVRed it and is gonna watch the show later.

You missed a part.... That is if you have had previous primate residence. If you are a first time landlord the banana may require freezing first.

Rugby Saint II 08-22-2013 12:06 PM

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Smith and monkeys...........that seems so appropriate. :wink:

jeanpierre 08-22-2013 01:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 518955)
I'm probably reaching, but its been a long time since Will Smith had a decent D-Lineman next to him. Maybe, just maybe...

1. Will Smith will reap the benefits of having Jordan/Hicks next to him.
2. Monkey's fly out my ass.

Vegas odds are 50/50.

Give yourself some room, don't put yourself in a corner... ;)


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