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papz 08-25-2013 06:59 PM

John DeShazier: New Orleans Saints learned they can take a punch, bounce back
 
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Houston – New Orleans learned against Houston on Sunday exactly what it probably wanted to learn in Reliant Stadium, against the two-time, defending AFC South Division champions.

Namely, that the Saints’ jaw appears to be sturdy enough to take a flush punch or two, and their own counter punches pack a force that can be pretty formidable.

In their third preseason game – the one that traditionally, most-closely has approximated a regular-season game – the Saints’ front-liners spotted the Texans a 10-0 lead, then clawed back to take a 17-16 lead into halftime of New Orleans’ 31-23 victory over Houston.

The Saints, in fact, stretched their halftime lead to 24-16 on the first drive of the third quarter when backup quarterback Luke McCown, who replaced Drew Brees on the Saints’ second series of the second quarter, led his second consecutive touchdown drive.

“There’s some encouraging things,” Coach Sean Payton said. “There are also some things we’ve got to get cleaned up.

“There’s still a number of things we’re going to have to work on and improve on.”

The improvement and work are ongoing, and the trajectory appears to be upward.

By the time McCown connected with Andy Tanner for an 8-yard score and the eight-point lead, the Saints had seen all they needed to see. With the Texans providing a measuring stick, New Orleans couldn’t have been displeased with how it sized up against a legitimate Super Bowl contender.

Houston zipped to a 7-0 lead after the first quarter, as it piled up 164 yards, 136 more than the Saints. And the Texans added a field goal to open the second quarter, completing a drive that ended the first period.

But even though Houston’s drive ended on Randy Bullock’s 48-yarder, it was a harbinger of New Orleans turning the momentum in its favor. Because in the three plays the Texans ran to open the quarter, they lost eight yards – defensive end Cam Jordan sacked Matt Schaub for a 9-yard loss on third-and-9 from the Saints’ 21-yard line.

From there, the Saints more than held their own in their first road game of the preseason.

The next offensive possession, and the final one for Brees, was a 3-play, 80-yard, 94-second bolt of lightning – a 29-yard screen pass to Mark Ingram, a run for no gain by Ingram, and a bullet pass to running back Pierre Thomas, who lined up in the slot right and beat his defender inside, dodged a couple of more and sprinted down the middle of the field to the end zone.

“The play to Pierre kind of sparked us a little bit,” Payton said.

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homerj07 08-25-2013 07:47 PM

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Overall we played well. Yes there are some things to work on but it looked ok

jeanpierre 08-25-2013 08:41 PM

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Well, it's a matter of time before we're attacked at the Outside Linebacking Spots, but then again, we've got to see Martez and Junior start playing together...

Rugby Saint II 08-25-2013 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 519855)
Well, it's a matter of time before we're attacked at the Outside Linebacking Spots, but then again, we've got to see Martez and Junior start playing together...

I'd like to see that too.:bng:

saintfan 08-25-2013 10:32 PM

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I thought we played well. Well, well enough.

I watched the game distracted. My son wanted to set up his Thomas The Train tent in the living room, and so we did, and I watched the game from inside the tent, listening mostly, and peeking out when I could, so I'm not commenting as though I watched with an eagle eye...

But is it just me, or were their WRs WIDE open WAY too much?

SmashMouth 08-25-2013 10:54 PM

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Johnson was way too open. But he did push off on one play.

Crusader 08-26-2013 01:33 AM

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It looked like a football game usually does with momentum swinging back and forth. We held them to field goals a bunch of times and stopped that 4th down try near the goalline. Defence started out slow but got better. I still think RR is holding back a lot.

dizzle88 08-26-2013 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 519883)
Johnson was way too open. But he did push off on one play.

Thats the sad thing about it smash, there was absolutely no push off, Lewis just couldn't make a play on the ball all night - watch at 1:17


TheOak 08-26-2013 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 519912)
Thats the sad thing about it smash, there was absolutely no push off, Lewis just couldn't make a play on the ball all night - watch at 1:17

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I was in the stands, there was push off.. I even said something to my wife just as he caught the ball, i expected a flag but nothing was dropped. It was not much but it was enough to get separation.. Watch the video, he puts his hands on him and makes a small movement.... Johnson has been playing long enough to know how to do it with out getting caught.. He is no Roddy White.

If there was not push off then a mystical force caused Lewis to go in a different direction than he was running very quickly.

Seer1 08-26-2013 07:02 AM

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Defense was porous, we were down by three when Drew left the field. The OL looked like they were playing on old school roller skates. We weren't winning with the first team out there. Just sayin'...

|Mitch| 08-26-2013 07:09 AM

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Defense was porous, we were down by three when Drew left the field.

I'll take seeing 10-7 rather than what we were accustomed to last year. With Spags, we would have been down 21-7 or worse...

And I truly feel that if our offense would have had sustained that first drive, we would not have given up that TD...

Punt, TD, FG, FG, Punt, FG in the first half is not bad against a good offense...

Danno 08-26-2013 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 519934)
Defense was porous, we were down by three when Drew left the field. The OL looked like they were playing on old school roller skates. We weren't winning with the first team out there. Just sayin'...

But we took the lead against their starters with McCown running with mostly ones. The texans played their starters the whole first half.

AllSaints 08-26-2013 07:15 AM

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1 of the greatest things about Sean Payton is how he changes the gameplan at halftime n we come back out 2nd half n kick a$$.... So glad we have SP !! !!

joker-saint 08-26-2013 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 519939)
But we took the lead against their starters with McCown running with mostly ones. The texans played their starters the whole first half.

That makes me question why Brees wasnt able to perform better. It seems as though Houston may have placed some second and third stringers out there for defense. I dont know enough about the Texans to tell though. Also two of the starters for Houston were out on defense, one suspended and the other im not sure why. Could Breehave done better if he stayed in? McCown isnt considered an elite QB, but he sure as hell played like one. I hope we get to see more out of Brees next week. He seems to be getting off to a slow start.

TheOak 08-26-2013 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by joker-saint (Post 520001)
That makes me question why Brees wasnt able to perform better. It seems as though Houston may have placed some second and third stringers out there for defense. I dont know enough about the Texans to tell though. Also two of the starters for Houston were out on defense, one suspended and the other im not sure why. Could Breehave done better if he stayed in? McCown isnt considered an elite QB, but he sure as hell played like one. I hope we get to see more out of Brees next week. He seems to be getting off to a slow start.

McCowan and our starters did more against Houston's 1st string defense than Brees and our starters did..

That being said, our offense is historically slow to get started, we were in the Texans home, and McCowan wants a job.. even if it is at back up. We also shouldnt forget that Brees first laid his hands on the ball where? I believe it was about 2 yards from the endzone after that hellacious punt.

I suspect after the Jets debacle some starting QBs were pulled a few plays before planned this week.

NuNu318 08-26-2013 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by joker-saint (Post 520001)
That makes me question why Brees wasnt able to perform better. It seems as though Houston may have placed some second and third stringers out there for defense. I dont know enough about the Texans to tell though. Also two of the starters for Houston were out on defense, one suspended and the other im not sure why. Could Breehave done better if he stayed in? McCown isnt considered an elite QB, but he sure as hell played like one. I hope we get to see more out of Brees next week. He seems to be getting off to a slow start.

Keep in mind....Jahri Evans did not play. Eric Olsen (who spends most of his time at backup Center instead of Guard) played while Brees was in and was not able to really step up in the pocket, got pressured and sacked up the middle. Wasn't until Brees worked that TD drive that you saw SP took Olsen out and put Lelito in at guard and the protection was much better.

So in other words I think him not being able to do what he needed fell more on the OL than it did Brees himself...

halloween 65 08-26-2013 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 519939)
But we took the lead against their starters with McCown running with mostly ones. The texans played their starters the whole first half.

You know as well as I do Watt did not play!! If so things could have been ugly at times!!

TheOak 08-26-2013 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 520007)
You know as well as I do Watt did not play!! If so things could have been ugly at times!!

1 player?

Ok.. Out starting LB corps didnt play.. Could have been ugly.

Colston didn't play, could have been ugly..

Danno 08-26-2013 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 520007)
You know as well as I do Watt did not play!! If so things could have been ugly at times!!

Did not play...

Marques Colston
Jahri Evans
Jed Collins
Junior Galette
Martez Wilson
Jonathan Vilma

Thats three of our top 4 LB's, and our All-World OG and best WR.

Rugby Saint II 08-26-2013 01:36 PM

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I'm ready for Thursday.


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