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dizzle88 08-26-2013 04:12 AM

Has anyone noticed?
 
That for 3 straight preseason games, Kenny Vaccaro has been at the top of list for tackles, the only person that had more was Humber in the raiders game

Vaccaro came off the field with a bloodied face and was laughing after he layed out the texans RB, i didnt know what to think when we drafted but I think we made the right decision. Can't wait to see him in the regular season

Lofton and humber will be good in the middle, both tackling machines and I like our D line

Only thing i'm a little concerned with is our secondary, Jenkins missed a shed load of tackles, P - Rob actually played well but andre schooled Keenan lewis

It was just a shame that SP couldnt trust the O line and drew got pulled after 2 drives but it wss probably for the best

lsutigerfan 08-26-2013 04:43 AM

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Im not concerned at all about the secondary, but I am concerned about the injuries to the OLB's. Vaccaro is gonna be a star, I loved the bloody nose look.

|Mitch| 08-26-2013 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by lsutigerfan (Post 519915)
Im not concerned at all about the secondary

I am; Lewis our supposed #1 corner has had a rough preseason so far...

AllSaints 08-26-2013 07:12 AM

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I didn't get to watch the game I was in jackson I was getting updates from twitter... But KV is going to make a name for his self ....

saintsfan403 08-26-2013 07:57 AM

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Lewis will get it together, I have faith. Patrick Robinson had a nice pass break up and I don't remember him giving up anything big last night, perhaps he'll finally step it up this year?

poydras 08-26-2013 08:05 AM

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Unfortunately, it's rarely a positive thing when a safety leads the team in tackles.

halloween 65 08-26-2013 08:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 519914)
That for 3 straight preseason games, Kenny Vaccaro has been at the top of list for tackles, the only person that had more was Humber in the raiders game

Vaccaro came off the field with a bloodied face and was laughing after he layed out the texans RB, i didnt know what to think when we drafted but I think we made the right decision. Can't wait to see him in the regular season

Lofton and humber will be good in the middle, both tackling machines and I like our D line

Only thing i'm a little concerned with is our secondary, Jenkins missed a shed load of tackles, P - Rob actually played well but andre schooled Keenan lewis

It was just a shame that SP couldnt trust the O line and drew got pulled after 2 drives but it wss probably for the best

Only thing I would change would be Humber and Lofton, I agree they are tackling machines but Lofton is showing repeatedly he cannot play the pass, Humber didn't play the pass well yesterday but I do feel he has the ability.
I would go with Hawthorn and Humber. We still need a beast for the middle.

Danno 08-26-2013 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 519965)
Only thing I would change would be Humber and Lofton, I agree they are tackling machines but Lofton is showing repeatedly he cannot play the pass, Humber didn't play the pass well yesterday but I do feel he has the ability.
I would go with Hawthorn and Humber. We still need a beast for the middle.

I think too much is being made about that crossing pattern. Humber and Lewis both stayed on one receiver while the other broke free uncovered. We really don't know who was supposed to cover who. It looked more like coverage confusion than a lack of coverage skills by Humber.

pumpkindriver 08-26-2013 08:42 AM

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You can't really tell much about the defense other than some individual efforts. Some of which have been outstanding, i.e. KV. Ryan is playing it for evals and we can only hope its decent come opening day.

Halo 08-26-2013 08:58 AM

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Vaccaro will be the best #1 pick we had since a long time.
For way too long our defense has been marginal to awful. In that time we failed at the draft picking offensive stars when we truly needed balance on defense.

Mr.Riaton 08-26-2013 09:26 AM

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After last season, I'm pretty happy with what the D did yesterday. Yes,we do have some things to work on, but holding that offense to 13 pts. In the first half w/o all of our starters in was reason enough to be optimistic. And how about Mr. Glen Foster!! wow! Excellent pick up for the Saints!

homerj07 08-26-2013 04:17 PM

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Still worried about the secondary. We had avoided the big play the last 2 games but we gave up to many this game.

TheOak 08-26-2013 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by homerj07 (Post 520124)
Still worried about the secondary. We had avoided the big play the last 2 games but we gave up to many this game.

How many Andre Johnson's will we face this season?

Danno 08-26-2013 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 520130)
How many Andre Johnson's will we face this season?

May be irrelevant since we'd double cover and/or bracket someone like AJ during a real game

TheOak 08-26-2013 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 520170)
May be irrelevant since we'd double cover and/or bracket someone like AJ during a real game

Depends on who the TE doesn't it ? :)

I'd have to go back and look... I was thinking Schaub was possibly throwing to AJ or OD which ever wasn't double covered... Then I remembered that for most of AJs catches he was zero covered. :/

Utah_Saint 08-26-2013 06:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 520130)
How many Andre Johnson's will we face this season?

Just checked...No Andre Johnsons on the the schedule.

However, we do play some other noteworthy receivers.

Week 1 - Roddy White, Julio Jones
Week 2 - Vincent Jackson
Week 3 - Larry Fitzgerald
Week 4 - Mike Wallace
Week 5 - Brandon Marshall
Week 8 - Steve Johnson
Week 10 - Dez Bryant
Week 12 - Roddy and Julio again
Week 14 and Week 16 - Steve Smith
Week 17 - Vincent Jackson again

Danno 08-26-2013 06:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 520177)
Depends on who the TE doesn't it ? :)

I'd have to go back and look... I was thinking Schaub was possibly throwing to AJ or OD which ever wasn't double covered... Then I remembered that for most of AJs catches he was zero covered. :/

Remember 2 years ago when we put 2 players on the Lions' Calvin Johnson? It looked like 2 guys on a punt team gunner.

Darrell Revis in his prime would have been abused by a healthy Anthony Johnson in single man coverage without help.

I'm not worried about that at all.

TheOak 08-26-2013 06:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 520192)
Just checked...No Andre Johnsons on the the schedule.

However, we do play some other noteworthy receivers.

Week 1 - Roddy White, Julio Jones
Week 2 - Vincent Jackson
Week 3 - Larry Fitzgerald
Week 4 - Mike Wallace
Week 5 - Brandon Marshall
Week 8 - Steve Johnson
Week 10 - Dez Bryant
Week 12 - Roddy and Julio again
Week 14 and Week 16 - Steve Smith
Week 17 - Vincent Jackson again

Noteworthy is one thing... Nearly Unstoppable due to match up is another..

The only combination that worries me is Jones and White when you add Gonzo... We have however proven we can even stop that with the worst defense in history.

Danno 08-26-2013 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 520195)
Noteworthy is one thing... Nearly Unstoppable due to match up is another..

The only combination that worries me is Jones and White when you add Gonzo... We have however proven we can even stop that with the worst defense in history.

I'm mostly worried about that area between the LB's and the secondary. Our LB's haven't proven they can cover deep enough and if we bring our safeties up we'll get burned deep or burned on those intermediate routes just past them, especially if we don't get a pass rush.

Thats my major matchup concern right now, especially with Atlanta. You know they're licking their chops at Lofton in coverage.

TheOak 08-26-2013 06:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 520197)
I'm mostly worried about that area between the LB's and the secondary. Our LB's haven't proven they can cover deep enough and if we bring our safeties up we'll get burned deep or burned on those intermediate routes just past them, especially if we don't get a pass rush.

Thats my major matchup concern right now, especially with Atlanta. You know they're licking their chops at Lofton in coverage.

Only obvious solution is to go all Williams and don't let ShattyIce get that ball off clean,

Euphoria 08-26-2013 06:49 PM

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Its never good when your S leads the team in tackles.

Danno 08-26-2013 06:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 520201)
Only obvious solution is to go all Williams and don't let ShattyIce get that ball off clean,

The QB must go down, and go down hard!

Shart Those Britches!!!!

TheOak 08-26-2013 07:09 PM

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ShattyIce

Yo, VIP, Let's kick it!

Shat Shat Baby, Shat Shat Baby
All right stop, constipated and glisten
Shat is back with my brand new intention
Something grabs a hold of me tightly
Flow like poop daily and nightly
Will it ever stop? Yo – I don't know
Turn off the lights and My chute will blow
To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal
Shat up a uniform and wax a chump like a candle.


Now that the dome is jumping
With my arse leakin, and the Intestines are pumpin'
Quick to the point, to the point, no faking
Rody help my sphincter is flaking...


That's as far as I got.

|Mitch| 08-26-2013 07:31 PM

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