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Danno 08-30-2013 01:51 PM

Ingram - rumors along with everything else
 
Quote:

Darren Connolly IV ‏@DConnollyNFL 1m
Source: #Saints and #NYGiants discussing deal involving RB Mark Ingram and multiple draft picks trade 50-50 on happening #NFL


https://twitter.com/DConnollyNFL

Darren Connolly IV ‏@DConnollyNFL 8m #Saints want a high draft pick and conditional mid round draft pick package for RB Ingram #NFL


ITS A RUMOR

Likely not true but fun to discuss nonetheless.

ITS A RUMOR

saintfan 08-30-2013 01:55 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
DO IT I SAY!!!!! ;)

lee909 08-30-2013 01:57 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
What would people be happy with?
2nd rounder and a conditional 4-5.
More drafts picks could help make the team younger and fill some of the holes that need filling on a limited cap

Saintaintso 08-30-2013 01:58 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
No I like Ingram way too much !!! Well , he'd have a better career with the giants for certain ... But wtf !!! We can't let him and ivory and bush just waltz there way out and get nothing of immediate impact back ... Now for jpp I'd roll the dice

TheOak 08-30-2013 02:03 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
Darren Connolly IV ‏@DConnollyNFL 20m

#Saints want a high draft pick and conditional mid round draft pick package for RB Ingram #NFL
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"He is an NFLInsider"
For a 3.7 YPC RB.... Let it rip... The first round status though will come at a premium.

Not sure why anyone thinks a player would have a better career any where else but to each his own.


MSN Scout has a reference to it but it looks like paid info.
https://www.google.com/search?q=%22I...cial&tbs=qdr:h

Side Note: His father mark Ingram Sr. was drafted by the Giants in 1987 as a Wide Receiver

WhoDat_WeDat 08-30-2013 02:04 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
To many free agents to trade for draft pick. Heard they were looking at Willis Mcgahee. There's also Micheal Turner could prob get these guys cheap if they still wanna play and save a pick.

TheOak 08-30-2013 02:05 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
No use for Turner.

Saintaintso 08-30-2013 02:08 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
Because Eli is no Brees , they're not going to throw the ball half as much as we are which means more carries .... And they have a better running scheme that suits ingrams strengths

Saintaintso 08-30-2013 02:10 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
I hope were not jumping the gun because Robinson did well against the dolphins soon to be cut players ... Am so hot right now !

TheOak 08-30-2013 02:11 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
Something is going down... The last 24 hours have been way too strange.

Cadet doesn't even dress or show for Dolphins game.
Robinson gets an unbelievable number of snaps for a bubble guy
Now rumors are surfacing for an Ingram trade...

Ingram goes, Cadet is cut, Robinson makes the team.

TheOak 08-30-2013 02:13 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Saintaintso (Post 521408)
I hope were not jumping the gun because Robinson did well against the dolphins soon to be cut players ... Am so hot right now !

Snap out of it... Frame the statement correctly.


Robinson did better against the Dolphins soon to be cut players than Ingram did. He also did better against the Raiders...

You forget Ingram played nearly the whole game?


RB is not a 1 on 1 position, if the hole is there it is there regardless of it being a 1st string hole or a 3rd string hole.

Saintaintso 08-30-2013 02:18 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
Rumors of Ingram packing up the locker ...

Danno 08-30-2013 02:19 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
We're loaded at RB.
We need defensive help.
Ingram will be a free agent after next year.
The Giants need a RB, and Ingram fits their needs.
Ingram's dad played there.
Ingram's dad is doing time there too I think.


I like Ingram, but if they offered me a 2nd and a 4th or 5th, I'd probably jump on it.

Now if we didn't have Cadet and Robinson, NFW!

TheOak 08-30-2013 02:20 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
I am not so interested in Ingram leaving as to what we may be receiving to play defense in return. You trade depth for depth.

It is nothing personal, it is business.

Winning Championships is a business.

Saintaintso 08-30-2013 02:24 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
How do we keep finding studs though ? And I wouldn't invest too much into cadet

ClintSaints 08-30-2013 02:24 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
If we're going to trade Ingram I'd rather trade him for a living, breathing player. We need defenders NOW.

Having said that, I still like Ingram.

CharityMike 08-30-2013 02:24 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
I would be ok with this. It has become obvious over the last couple years, he just is not cut out for this offense. He has been out played by every other RB on our roster except maybe Cadet. At some point, its just time to cut bait.

Danno 08-30-2013 02:25 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Saintaintso (Post 521418)
How do we keep finding studs though ? And I wouldn't invest too much into cadet

Our scouting department excels at spotting Offensive talent, but apparently at the cost of spotting Defensive talent.

TheOak 08-30-2013 02:30 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
Pat Kerwin talking about it in NFLSirius

jnormand 08-30-2013 02:30 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
Not for this. I'd like to see Ingram stay. Hope this is bs.

papz 08-30-2013 02:43 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
Sometimes a rumor is just a rumor.

saintsfan403 08-30-2013 02:46 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
Don't we go through this rumour every year? Hope it's not true, Ingram looked way better against Houston's starters than Robinson did against Miami's backups

halloween 65 08-30-2013 02:51 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
I could see this happening, we would be loaded in the next draft. A high 2nd and a couple later round picks could go a long way if it is true . PT, Robinson and Sproles and possibly keeping Cadet, there are a lot worse out there.

Jack Vegas 08-30-2013 02:58 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
I like Ingram, but if you can get a highish pick for him it should be considered. We have other backs that don't need 15+ carries to be productive and if we're not going to use him the way he should be then maybe it's time to let him go.

saintsfan403 08-30-2013 03:00 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 521413)

You forget Ingram played nearly the whole game?


Ingram had 9 carries vs Robinson's 22

jnormand 08-30-2013 03:00 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
Screw this!!!! I hope he stays and rips it up this year and all ya'll eat crow!!!

saintfan 08-30-2013 03:00 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papz (Post 521426)
Sometimes a rumor is just a rumor.


WhoDat!656 08-30-2013 03:06 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
This could have something to do with it: Giants' RB Andre Brown breaks leg

Andre Brown - New York Giants - 2013 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com

papz 08-30-2013 03:11 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
This is the main reason why I feel it's just a rumor that's passing through.

#Saints want a high draft pick and conditional mid round draft pick package for RB Ingram #NFL

Ain't happening. Ingram isn't worth more than a 3rd at most right now... and that's just because he's still very young. Wilson is their future and ready to blow the top off of New York. The Giants aren't dumb enough to invest a high draft pick plus a conditional mid round pick for a rotational back.

I wouldn't give more than a conditional 4th that could turn into a 3rd based on Ingram's performance. He's a one year rental who is not a star back... no one is going to pay a premium price for that. If by some chance Ingram is moved for a 2nd round pick, I'll change my name to c0ckmonger for the next year.

What's going to happen is that he stays and has his best season as a Saint.

dizzle88 08-30-2013 03:12 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
I really like ingram and would hate to see him go without having this year to see what he can do but its up to the coaches and mickey, i'll trust the moves that they make and if Ingram gets us a high first rounder then ill be happy

Also send us JPP when he's fully healthy

Jack Vegas 08-30-2013 03:12 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 521433)
Screw this!!!! I hope he stays and rips it up this year and all ya'll eat crow!!!

I would love for Ingram to stay and have a breakout year. I'm just not sure Payton is prepared to give any single running back 20 carries a game and that is what Ingram needs to be most effective.

lee909 08-30-2013 03:16 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 521435)
This could have something to do with it: Giants' RB Andre Brown breaks leg

Andre Brown - New York Giants - 2013 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com

Why does this happen after i draft him late in various fantasy teams!

Cruize 08-30-2013 03:17 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
Not going to happen. But, with the current RB rotation, and an overall lack of scheme involving the running game in the Saints pass happy offense, the Saints could win without him. Also, if Ingram went to a team that used him as he should be used, he would have a better career. In theory, it could be a win/win for the team and player.

TheOak 08-30-2013 03:39 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papz (Post 521426)
Sometimes a rumor is just a rumor.

That is correct... However I am willing to dry-hump a little at the risk of a happy ending...

Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan403 (Post 521432)
Ingram had 9 carries vs Robinson's 22


What is your point? Read what you quoted of mine, thengo watch Ingram run the ball in 3 quarters... It is a valid statement. In the context of my statement it was pointing out that they both ran against Miami's 2/3/4 string players.

K Major 08-30-2013 03:44 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 521416)
I am not so interested in Ingram leaving as to what we may be receiving to play defense in return. You trade depth for depth.

It is nothing personal, it is business.

Winning Championships is a business.

+1 & so true. Depth wins Super Bowls not just big names.

dueceloose 08-30-2013 03:53 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
Potential picks are always good and at this point we need those (thanks goodell) and in all honesty I'd rather Ingram go so pt can shine the main rb who has been consistent since our sb run.

TheOak 08-30-2013 03:56 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
[QUOTE=papz;521437 If by some chance Ingram is moved for a 2nd round pick, I'll change my name to c0ckmonger for the next year.

What's going to happen is that he stays and has his best season as a Saint.[/QUOTE]


I just broke out the ouija board... You may want to start looking for a fitting avatar. Might I suggest this little gem?
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/2012/wri...er-goodell.jpg

papz 08-30-2013 03:57 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
Only if someone can overlap that face onto my penguin.

TheOak 08-30-2013 03:59 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
Ill pay for that one.


Penguin? I thought that was Kenny

lee909 08-30-2013 04:09 PM

Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR
 
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Only if someone can overlap that face onto my penguin.

Here you go
I can do a bit better at work in the morning with a mouse


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