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Old 09-09-2013, 11:31 AM   #121
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The offense will get in sync and get their timing together; Drew's too competitive not to.
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Old 09-09-2013, 11:40 AM   #122
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I can't believe someone is actually worried about our offense. Our offense. Really?

Well come to think of it, it's not surprising at all. What's next on the checklist to complain about?
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What worried me yesterday was how Drew under threw a lot of passes.
His pick was under thrown, had Stills wide open for what could have been 6 but Stills had to wait on the ball and it was broken up. Hopefully it was just a one day thing and Drew hasn't lost some arm strength.
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Old 09-09-2013, 12:45 PM   #125
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One of the undertones I had to sift through involved a perceived decline in Saints all-world quarterback Drew Brees. I honestly don't understand what Saints fans want from Brees. If his league-leading 43 TDs weren't enough, his conducting of the second overall offense should have been.

The game against the Falcons was much of the same.

Going 26-of-35 for 357 yards (two TDs) was vintage Brees. His command of the huddle may be only superseded by his ability to execute. Any talk of his decline is premature at this point.

Fans expect perfection from Brees; they should just settle for him being better than 95 percent of the other quarterbacks in the league.
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I don't expect perfection but I do worry about under thrown passes that leads to turnovers and missed opportunities. It wasn't just one pass. It was several. Even the completed passes had receivers going to the ground to make the catch when they could have made extra yardage if the ball had a little more on it. Now was it because of being under pressure, I'm not 100% sure and will need to look at the replay but sitting in the dome yesterday I saw several under thrown balls.
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I don't expect perfection but I do worry about under thrown passes that leads to turnovers and missed opportunities. It wasn't just one pass. It was several. Even the completed passes had receivers going to the ground to make the catch when they could have made extra yardage if the ball had a little more on it. Now was it because of being under pressure, I'm not 100% sure and will need to look at the replay but sitting in the dome yesterday I saw several under thrown balls.
The Stills under throw could have been a timing issue... I can see Drew still working out the window for Stills and i can also see Stills adrenalin at 150% because of where he was and the whole first NFL game etc... Once he gets comfortable i hope the timing gets better.

Honestly, against Atlanta in the dome, my fat azz could run a 4.2s 40 for one of Drews passes with nothing but goal line in front of me also .. So if I could have run a 4.2s then Kenny was running a 2.9s 40

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Originally Posted by Budsdrinker View Post
What worried me yesterday was how Drew under threw a lot of passes.
His pick was under thrown, had Stills wide open for what could have been 6 but Stills had to wait on the ball and it was broken up. Hopefully it was just a one day thing and Drew hasn't lost some arm strength.
Drew has never had a big arm. His timing was off thats all. The INT was just a great play by the DB and the other under-throws were timing issues considering they were all to stills.

Rhythm and timing is tough for an offense to get down. A new running scheme and new receivers means growing pains for the first few weeks.
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I can't believe someone is actually worried about our offense. Our offense. Really?

Well come to think of it, it's not surprising at all. What's next on the checklist to complain about?
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Old 09-09-2013, 02:38 PM   #130
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Re: I'm afraid we're in trouble.

I thought yesterday looked to me like a LOT of other Saints games from the past (especially 2010, it seemed to happen a lot then) where the offense kinda does a Rip Van Winkle, and goes to sleep for a while, for a quarter or so, then it suddenly wakes up and says "Oh, gee, I almost forgot, we're AWESOME" and then they just turn on the jets again and start humming.

I remember the quote from Aaron Kromer last year, that the Saints offense historically tends to be, it's either a three-and-out, or it's points. Historically that is the pattern they have observed.

Obviously, in theory the coaches want to score every time they have the ball, and are never satisfied with anything....in theory....but in reality, that pattern is okay by them, as long as they DO score a lot of points and as long as they can limit the three-and-outs.


But historically, in terms of the offense, once they get that first first down in a drive, or maybe the second first down, then it's usually off to the races from there on.

This was Sunday, BTW:

Itals: Three and outs (or close to it)
Bold = Points

01:34 - 4 plays 19 yards Punt
03:07 6 palys 23 yds Downs
05:35 12 plays 50 yds Field Goal
01:26 3 plays 31 yds Touchdown
04:02 6 plays 67 yds Field Goal

00:30 2plays 7 yards End of Half
01:08 3 plays -9 yards Punt
05:19 10 plays 80 yds Touchdown
00:08 1 play 0 Intercepted Pass ----
04:53 10 plays 55 yds Punt ---> In a way, this and the INT are the only times they truly "failed" all day

06:12 10 68 yds Field Goal
00:43 2 plays -2 End of Game

If either of those two in red had been POINTS, they would have had a ratio of almost exactly 2 to 1 between scores and punts/3 and outs.
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