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Cruize 09-08-2013 08:13 PM

Overall Observations
 
1. Brees played a very good game today despite being under alot of pressure and without much of a running attack. His deep throws are just not there. Could be timing. Could be arm strength. At times, he forces the ball downfield when he doesn't need to or the situation doesn't call for it. Not complaining. Just obsevations.
2. The O-Line is good at best. Probably closer to average. Evans, the best of the bunch, had his worst game as a Saint. I hope it's rust and not injury related. The Saints are going to need his All-Pro play.
3. The Saints offense is too predictable. With Ingram in the game it's a run. With Sproles in the game it's mostly pass and asking him to pass block is hard to watch. PT should be on the field most of the time and let the others sub in situationally.
4. The Saints should call the Steelers or Dolphins and see if they want Ingram. He just doesn't fit what the Saints do and mostly how they use him. He needs to be on the field to be effective and it's just not going to happen under the current system. A rotation of Thomas, Robinson, and Sproles will be just as effective if not more so than the current one. It's painful to watch Ingram's frustration and at some point it's going to be a distraction and a negative. If it isn't already.
5. Colston is a beast.
6. Stills was a steal in the draft. Not to knock an injured guy, but he's so much better than Morgan and it's not even close.
7. Hartley had looked very solid.
8. The defense flew around and played hard today.
9. Jordan and Hicks are beasts.
10. Vaccaro should hit the QB atleast once a game late or not. LOL. Ryan was not as confident after KV popped him.
11. PH was a great pickup from the 40whiners. He can play the run and pass and brings some extra speed and thump to the D.
12. JR said he would be ready and he was. An above average athlete who has the heart of a lion.
13. Hawthorne is better than Vilma.
14. White made some plays today and I like the way he hits as a CB.
15. Having the Head Coach back today was the difference.
16. Watson makes plays and moves the chains.
17. Herring made a couple plays today a looked good on special teams.
18. The injuries on the DL are not good.
19. T. Johnson flashed a little today. Suprising and good.
20. Hopefully Ryan will call his Brother and get some insight on how they stopped Tampa's run game.
21. 1-0. Beat the Falclowns. WHO DAT!

homerj07 09-08-2013 08:35 PM

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Good observations. I don't know about Ingram. I don't think it is as much his fault as the scheme.

How did Lewis do? Did he force the fumble on Jones?

|Mitch| 09-08-2013 08:40 PM

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Lewis went out early with some kind on injury, came back in the second half and had lock-down coverage from then on...

Rugby Saint II 09-09-2013 02:28 PM

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You were obviously not drinking as much as I was. Thanks for sharing your observations.

SaintsBro 09-09-2013 02:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cruize (Post 525217)
1. At times, he forces the ball downfield when he doesn't need to or the situation doesn't call for it. Not complaining. Just obsevations.

My interpretation was that, for at least two or three of the deep throws, the situation there WAS calling for, trying to test the Falcons' unproven rookie safeties/corners, fairly early in the game. It wasn't just wildly throwing it deep because Drew suddenly decided he felt like it -- we knew the Saints were going to be testing the Falcons suspect rookie deep guys. And that's what it was. When it didn't work, and the Falcon rookies looked pretty good defending/deflecting the deep balls (I remember two of them kinda early on), then the Saints went to other plays.

ScottyRo 09-09-2013 02:52 PM

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Definitely agree with the trade suggestion. Some other observations...

1. Holding/Illegal blocking on special teams has got to stop. Was there a single punt return that wasn't flagged?

2. We dodged a bullet on the Falcon's last play. I haven't seen the replay enough to tell who it was, but someone got to Ryan just as he threw the ball. Unfortunately, he grabbed Ryan by the collar and pulled him down. I could definitely see that as being called giving the Falcons a fresh set of downs.

AllSaints 09-09-2013 02:55 PM

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My observation of Ingram is I have seen enough... n he will not do anything with this system.... Need to ship him away n get something why we can.....

WhoDat!656 09-09-2013 03:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottyRo (Post 525753)
2. We dodged a bullet on the Falcon's last play. I haven't seen the replay enough to tell who it was, but someone got to Ryan just as he threw the ball. Unfortunately, he grabbed Ryan by the collar and pulled him down. I could definitely see that as being called giving the Falcons a fresh set of downs.

I saw that as well and was astounded the refs didn't throw a flag.

RailBoss 09-10-2013 12:21 PM

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I agree and saw it to, game over right there.

|Mitch| 09-10-2013 01:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottyRo (Post 525753)
2. We dodged a bullet on the Falcon's last play. I haven't seen the replay enough to tell who it was, but someone got to Ryan just as he threw the ball. Unfortunately, he grabbed Ryan by the collar and pulled him down. I could definitely see that as being called giving the Falcons a fresh set of downs.

That would be Mr. Lofton... In fact, there were about three Saints in his immediate vicinity, but Lofton was the one with the death grip on ole Skid

Euphoria 09-10-2013 04:41 PM

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Look if you have a good running game... you should be able to tell them look we are running the ball right here and Ingram is going to carry it and we should still be able to pick up yards.

We should be able to run the ball at will and we can't with Ingram. Also notice how much faster PT and Sproles even Cadets hits the wholes.

saintfan 09-10-2013 04:53 PM

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I observed us putting the smack down on the failclowns. Everything else is gravy.

Danno 09-10-2013 06:06 PM

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I observed the rise of Kenny Vaccaro and Kenny Stills. They weren't perfect, but its obvious they'll be successful in this league

I observed a D-Line gettin after it!!! Been a while since I saw that, maybe the Bears game a couple years ago, but their O-line was pathetic.

Four safety sets, and it worked. I didn't see that coming.

I saw consistency on the defense. Only a few WTF plays.

I saw us beat a very good team with Drew Brees having a relatively off-day. It could have been one of those 3 score blow outs if he was in his usual "zone".

I saw a team with swagger.

TheOak 09-10-2013 06:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 526222)
I observed us putting the smack down on the failclowns. Everything else is gravy.

Pork Roast gravy at that!

Mr.Riaton 09-10-2013 06:29 PM

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Um......I noticed you spoke of Hartley but failed to mention anything about Mr. Legatron. Im sure he'd be pretty offended if he read that list.

Oh, and Tyrunn Walker is gonna be good. Hope his injury isn't serious.

Boutte 09-10-2013 06:35 PM

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Johnson's play didn't surprise me at all. The man is as fast as any DL I've seen recently. If he can stay healthy he'll be a big part of out defensive turn around this year.

NonieT 09-10-2013 10:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cruize (Post 525217)

12. JR said he would be ready and he was. An above average athlete who has the heart of a lion.

Who is JR?

Utah_Saint 09-10-2013 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by NonieT (Post 526331)
Who is JR?

Junior Galette. Heart of a lion. Beard of a Viking.

Fear the Beard!

Matt Ryan does.

NonieT 09-10-2013 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 526333)
Junior Galette. Heart of a lion. Beard of a Viking.

Fear the Beard!

Matt Ryan does.

I thought it was the letters JR. Did not realize in was Junior. And your right, he has the heart of a lion and the courage of a warrior.

hagan714 09-11-2013 09:26 AM

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:bounce::cheering::bounce::cheering::bounce:

John Jenkins without a doubt was the rookie of the game. i was not happy with the pick and boy i really watch everything the kid did to well pick at him. I got really nothing to say about the guy.

he played like a pro in game 1 and gets this week award : :broccoli:

hagan714 09-11-2013 09:28 AM

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JR put the rush on as we all expected but i need to see the tackles increase too

73Saint 09-11-2013 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 526399)
:bounce::cheering::bounce::cheering::bounce:

John Jenkins without a doubt was the rookie of the game. i was not happy with the pick and boy i really watch everything the kid did to well pick at him. I got really nothing to say about the guy.

he played like a pro in game 1 and gets this week award : :broccoli:

I agree he played well. Didn't he get hurt??


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