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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; I agree that MI's opportunities seemed to fall apart as soon as he got the ball and that could be scheme or o-line issues, but I also feel like PT runs with a lower center of gravity. MI always seems ...

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Old 09-09-2013, 02:37 PM   #21
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Re: Pierre Thomas is underused

I agree that MI's opportunities seemed to fall apart as soon as he got the ball and that could be scheme or o-line issues, but I also feel like PT runs with a lower center of gravity. MI always seems to be running "tall", if you know what I mean, and he's easily knocked down. PT, Cadet, Robinson all seem to have better balance.

That's why I wanted to trade MI to Detroit last October when they were so desperate for a RB.
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Old 09-09-2013, 08:34 PM   #22
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There must be something we are missing.

I honestly have no idea what BUT - we've got to be missen som-em!
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screw the pooch

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Get outta my face.
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PT does not have the endurance to geaux more than 10-12 touches per game over an entire season...we know this from watching his career with the Saints...

If you've played football you know that you can win the ball with 2yd pounding runs because (a) you make the opposition respect the run, (b) you give your offensive line a chance to fire off against the defense, wearing them down (c) your not showing all your passing plays before the end of the first half...

Now, from what we saw of Ingram yesterday; he's struggling to develop chemistry and timing with the Saints blocking schemes and that is a SHARED responsibility of Ingram (65%) and Coaching (35%)...

As a professional, it is his responsibility to put in more film time and work at practice to recognize his mistakes and take corrective action; the coaches wanted this guy enough to move back into the first round and grab him and they need to do their part...

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Maybe we can trade him for steven jackson
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Old 09-09-2013, 11:12 PM   #27
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PT does not have the endurance to geaux more than 10-12 touches per game over an entire season...we know this from watching his career with the Saints...
We know nothing of the sort. In 2009 he had the most carries of his career, rushed for nearly 800 yards at 5.4 ypc (!), never got hurt after coming back from the first 2 games and still had enough gas to be one of our best players in the playoffs. In 2008 he had the most touches of his career adding up rushes, receptions and kick returns and played in 15 games only missing the season finale.

In fact there is nothing at all to suggest PT is any more injury-prone than any other running back in the NFL. Other than the one year when he had a catastrophic injury he's never played in less than 14 games. Even Emmitt Smith had multiple seasons where he missed 2 or 3 games.

There is no reason to think PT could not handle around 200 combined touches a season when he's done it before and in fact those seasons just happen to be the most productive of his career.

Give PT and Sproles about 12 carries each and however many receptions, that's 24 carries a game. Give the remaining 5 or 6 carries to Ingram. You have to put your most productive players on the field.
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- Mark Ingram is not as good as Mike Bell was at .....
at wearing the wrong cleats
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*Prediction*
Sean Payton follows B&G recommendations and gives PT more carries.

PT gets injured.

B&G has a new thread saying getting PT hurt was stupid when we have 4 RBs.


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win and have pT fresh at playoff time i cool in my book.
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