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It may have been a win against the clowns, but that gives no one an excuse to focus on the previous sunday past 1pm Monday.

The Bucs are going to be tough to beat. They may not have an elite running game, nor a stable of wide receivers, but Freeman is mobile and streaky. Their offensive line can repel on occasion.

Their defense gave up over 300 total offense, including 256 passing to the division III Jets. Their offense might suck, but their are still professionals and can do damage, and TB should have done enough to win against them.

All this being said, playing in the evening on the road on grass in a brazing oven is going to test the Saints.

What matchups are going to cause us/them problems?

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Just playing the Yucks in Tampa scares me.

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They're a tough team at home and better than what they showed against the Jets.

We need to make sure we provide over the top help for whomever will be guarding Vincent Jackson. I'd like to see Vaccaro matched up with Jackson on some plays... that should be an interesting matchup. They're going to run Doug Martin like a rag doll on us... we need to make sure we limit the damage. Martez will be back next week so we'll have even more speed to use to create pressure. While Freeman is far from a great quarterback, he's more than capable of putting up a monster stat line. We need to keep him on his toes and not let him get comfortable.

Offensively, just play Saints football and limit turnovers. There's typically not much to complain about. We can score on anyone.

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Mike Williams, WR is one to watch as well...

And that running game with Doug Martin as the workhorse can gouge fast...

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I will gloat the length of Monday sir, thank you. I rarely get serious on Monday's - it's bad joo joo...

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Gloating on Mondays is like Milk, it does the body good!

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Rob just needs to ask his brother what he did this week. But they can be a dangerous team. For some reason they just can't get it together. Didn't we shut them out last year? No reason why it can't happen again. I believe the defense will do what it's supposed to do. I'm actually more concerned about Drew. He's been slightly off on a lot of passes. Its weird. And this isn't something I just noticed. I've been saying it since after the Super Bowl. But I think we win pretty easily. 34-13.

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I believe we will destroy them.

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Hopefully we get Foster back and others that were hurt. I'm not worried about the bucs.. unless you guys start saying we lost in the chat box and the games not over yet smh.

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Any division game is going to be hard fought. They do always seem to have our number especially at their house. It would be awesome to start the division 2-0. If we field the same team we did against ATL we got this. I expect to see a much improved offense over last weeks performance too.

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Hes getting older. It happens. Our line is really missing Kromer and he did pretty well in spite of pressure Sunday. I think the offense will start clicking, we have always started off shakey on that front.

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WHY exactly are people so scared of Tampa, why are they scared of playing IN Tampa? I guess I just don't really get it.

I suppose people are just spooked about the game where Payton broke his leg...??? Because other than that, or games where we haven't played our starters for the whole time, we have NEVER had a problem handling Tampa, under Sean Payton.

The reality is that when we NEED to beat them, it always happens very easily. We always come prepared. We always bring our game. The games we drop, we either drop them because we don't NEED to win them, or because coach breaks his flippin' leg in the first quarter.

We have put beatdowns on them in the sun, in the heat, before. We have put beatdowns on them in the Dome before.

Tampa Bay are extremely poorly coached, as evidenced by their loss at the end of their game yesterday on a stupid -- and avoidable -- penalty. And if God forbid the game next week is kinda close, their thick-necked, ham-headed coach will find a way to lose it for them.

That game in Tampa last year? Yeah, it wasn't a lot of fun, but remember this -- we were ahead on the scoreboard for more time of the game, with a lead, than we were ever behind. We were up two scores comfortably in the third, but then Spanowedon't worked his magic and let the Bucs put together two back-to-back 65+ yard drives in the blink of an eye. And no Payton to boot.

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Did anyone see the Jets game? I am looking at the stats and either the Jets defense is damn good or TB isnt all that this year.

Freeman ~ 15/31 210 yards 1 TD 1 INT
Martin ~ 24 / 65 yards 1 TD
Jackson had a good game 7 / 154 yards
Williams 4 / 52 1 TD

Fairly one dimensional? EG dont have to worry about 4 good recievers

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Not gloating when you earn it.

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Bucs are going to kill there selfs their not disipline if you saw the jets game they had penalty after penalty .... Saints should take this game if we dont screw up any... n I believe with the corrections from this week they should take care of business ! Who Dat ! ! !

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Saints just need to play their game. Bucs were barely in a position to beat the arguably worst team in the Jets.
It is their home opener and the sting of that loss will be fresh.

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That's gotta be some kind of record. :p

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Saints have to recover from a hard didivsional game already, and then play another - one down at a time.

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13 penalties against the Jets. Last one cost them the game. I know they some talent but seems like they have way more attitude problems than anything else.

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We are 8-6 against Tampa Bay since Sean Payton has been here. .500 against them prior to last year's 2 game sweep. So no, we haven't always "handled" Tampa Bay. The worst kind of losses are the one where people just sit there and think it's a gimme.

I sure as hell hope we don't bring this same type of mindset some of our fans have into the game. Underestimating your opponents thinking you're better than everyone else will come back and bite you in the ass. The Bucs have plenty of weapons... we need to be prepared.

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Ain't skeered.:cool:

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Rob Ryan and the defense are playing with a chip on their shoulder... I don't see this one being a problem...

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Whoop! Where is Berman

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Yes it does!

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Trap game

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If we beat the Bucs, we have a strangle hold on the division though... Or at least I think so...

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Confidence is the most dangerous thing you can give a competitor.

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I am glad the Saints won season opener on Sunday against the AtlFal and for the Saints 's fans there in the SD.
Add that AF is a divisional game as well.
Still, the game got really close at some points where the Saints could have lost it. The dramatic ending was nice, exciting all because the Saints won and that ending was a game deciding ending.
If the Saints had lost , if the Fals had caught that endzone ball, the SD would have been like that year in the early 1980s's when the Saints won the game against L.A. Rams, so we all thought. When the the noise level was deafening and then in the last moment, some kind of way the L.A. Rams won. game over. Dead silence.

I think the Saints really have a lot of reviewing to tighten up some loose ends to be ready for Tampa Bay Bucks.

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OK well if you want to pull your Winnie The Pooh blankie up above your chin and be scared of the Buccaneers, be my guest. But recent history shows we have beaten them soundly whenever both teams were at full strength, and whenever we NEEDED to beat them. THOSE games are Saints blowouts. The handful of squeakers that the Bucs barely win, are NOT NORMAL GAMES, my friend. Usually they happen after the division has already been decided between us and the Falcons.

let's look at these 6 losses against Tampa Bay:


2012 - swept them (doesn't count, but still). One of them was 41-0, BLOWOUT. The other we won and led by at least a TD for most of the game.

2011 - 26-20, loss, but if you didn't notice, OUR COACH BROKE HIS FRICKIN' LEG in the middle of the 1st quarter. Kind of hard to game plan for that since it's only happened once in the history of the NFL. We throttled them 3 weeks later with playoffs/home field on the line and Payton back on crutches

2010 - won the first one 31-6, BLOWOUT, then lost the second in December 13-23. We HAD THE LEAD when Drew Brees and other starters got pulled in the 2nd half, to get ready for the playoffs! Last game of the year. We had clinched the playoffs against the Falcons the week before and by halftime the game had no impact on home field, so Payton pulled the starters. We lost. Oh, the humanity.

2009 - WON 38-7, BLOWOUT. Then we lost to them in overtime late in the year and everyone bawled their eyes out like the world had ended. Now I don't know about you but I was AT that game, and the 2nd half was the most BORING half of Sean Payton football I EVER saw .We had a lead, we had the playoffs in hand, it was obvious to everyone in the stadium that Payton slammed the playbook shut after halftime. He didn't bench Brees, but he put most of the stars on the bench, and was mostly just handing the ball off to 3rd string running back Lynell Hamilton over and over, a guy who barely saw the field in the other games. Again -- we lost, but this game DIDN'T MATTER, losing it didn't affect the playoff seeding, or home field, AT ALL, unless you're one of those people who believed in the "Tampa Bay curse."

2008 - we lost to them the second game, but we were 6-6 at that point, with no Deuce, not entirely sure what they were playing for, other than honor

2007 - the Bucs swept us in 2007, but unless you are really concerned about Jeff Garcia QBing for the Bucs and "Cadillac" Williams scoring on us, then it's not worth talking about. Plus we all know this was the young "pass happy" Payton.

I don't know how else to explain facts to you. NO ONE is under-estimating the Bucs. But some people are definitely over-estimating them, and under-estimating our own coaches and players.

I just showed you that HALF the 6 Sean Payton losses to the Buccaneers have either been with Saints starters pulled, or with our coach calling plays while lying in the locker room with his knee on ice. I just showed you that whenever both teams and both coaches line up at full strength and play, the Saints DOMINATE the series, and usually outscore the Bucs by 2 to 1. What is so difficult to understand about that.

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Very thorough, bro..

As the clowns may tell you from recent experience, the past is not a good predictor of the future.

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You can twist it any which way you like sweet cheeks, the fact of the matter is that Sean Payton is 6-6 in his career versus Tampa Bay. Whether it's one point for 50 points, a win is a win a loss counts as a loss. I'm certainly not overestimating the Bucs. We are a better team... and we should win. With that said, I'm not completely oblivious to the fact that have plenty of talent on that team and anything can happen any given Sunday.

It's okay to be old and naive.

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One game at a time. Focus on Tampa.

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I couldnt agree more.

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I heard Payton say that the Dome was not especially loud for this game. I was kind of shocked by that.

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The matchup problem...the heat.

It's Hot. It's Africa hot. Tarzan couldn't take this kind of heat.

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... I typically gloat (or cry) through Tues late morning/early afternoon before I start looking at the next week's games. Tampa Bay is in disarray. I know you can never totally count out an NFL team, but this one is the Saints' to lose ... just don't see the Bucs mounting any type of game until they get their heads on straight. :neutral:

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which hopefully *isn't* this week.

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The heat will be a factor and TB likes to force us to wear black jerseys when we play them at home early in the season.

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Kenny Stills outscores Tampa

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Correct me if I'm wrong on this, but isn't most of Saints training camp held outdoors? I've never been to Tampa, but I've been to New Orleans in the summer. If they can practice in that heat, then Tampa should be second nature. The black jerseys I'll give you, but I don't think the heat is going to be that much of a difference. Especially since they are only a couple of weeks out of camp.