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Luda34 09-09-2013 06:27 PM

Lofton cover skills again
 
I hate to keep messing with Lofton but again this guy can't cover once the Saints defense get near the end zone. Why in the hell would leave Tony Gonzales when there in the red zone. I know Matt Ryan was trying to run but we had a player running to stop him.

|Mitch| 09-09-2013 06:30 PM

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I thought he did surprisingly well, with 3 and 4 safeties on the field it helped to protect him in coverage...

Luda34 09-09-2013 06:35 PM

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I agree Mitch but he's still the one keep getting beat by Tony and it pisses me off.

|Mitch| 09-09-2013 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Luda34 (Post 525875)
I agree Mitch but he's still the one keep getting beat by Tony and it pisses me off.

We have no idea what his assignment was on that play. If I remember correctly it was him and a safety doubling Gonzo.

Maybe that's what he was supposed to do spy Ryan...

Halo 09-09-2013 06:38 PM

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He had a bad rap coming from Atlanta that he could not cover anyone.

Luda34 09-09-2013 06:44 PM

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Thanks Halo I wish I could find that.

Halo 09-09-2013 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Luda34 (Post 525886)
Thanks Halo I wish I could find that.

This was from an NFL trade site where Tampa Bay was interested in him when we were too....
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Lofton is a very solid two-down player but is poor in pass coverage. The Buc’s will still use Mason Foster in more of a limited role but this could end up being a pretty solid move for them
NFL Trade Rumors - Buccaneers Showing Early Interest In Curtis Lofton? NFL Trade Rumors - |

And falcons board...

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They are in for a rude awakening if they think he is a leader like Vilma. Or as good in pass coverage
Curtis Lofton = Sellout! - Around the NFL - Falcons Life Forums

Rugby Saint II 09-09-2013 06:59 PM

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Lofton's strong suit isn't his coverage skills.

jeanpierre 09-09-2013 07:09 PM

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F-it! Then let Humber play!

Keep throwing free agents and draft picks till something sticks; if Lofton would be better at the WILL, then move him and let the better player on the roster handle it...

Humber looks like he's matured into the roll, and he's definitely showed some wheels as well as some explosiveness in his tackling...

Halo 09-09-2013 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 525903)
F-it! Then let Humber play!

Keep throwing free agents and draft picks till something sticks; if Lofton would be better at the WILL, then move him and let the better player on the roster handle it...

Humber looks like he's matured into the roll, and he's definitely showed some wheels as well as some explosiveness in his tackling...

I've felt like that too because most of my life, besides the Dome Patrol years, we notoriously have poor or absent linebacker play.

In the last 90's, I screamed my brains out that we should have open try outs for anyone - free agent or UPS man - who could play solid linebacker. Always a position we do not nail, except for the Dome patrol era.

Problem is until this season, we haven't "drafted" defense into our team. We're always scabbing it through free agency.

The Dude 09-09-2013 07:28 PM

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Lots of people cant cover Tony

The Dude 09-09-2013 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Halo (Post 525904)
I've felt like that too because most of my life, besides the Dome Patrol years, we notoriously have poor or absent linebacker play.

In the last 90's, I screamed my brains out that we should have open try outs for anyone - free agent or UPS man - who could play solid linebacker. Always a position we do not nail, except for the Dome patrol era.

Problem is until this season, we haven't "drafted" defense into our team. We're always scabbing it through free agency.

Jordon
Jenkins
Hicks
Galettw
Wilson
Ellis
Harper
And many more
We have drafted tons of defense, even in the first round. They just rarely pan out the way we hope

Halo 09-09-2013 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 525906)
Jordon
Jenkins
Hicks
Galettw
Wilson
Ellis
Harper
And many more
We have drafted tons of defense, even in the first round. They just rarely pan out the way we hope

You're right. It's true. And I have more hope with recent picks.

westbankdaze 09-09-2013 07:49 PM

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But y'all know who could cover him? K V


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halloween 65 09-09-2013 08:21 PM

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Humber would do well, Tez could probably be an All-Pro.

The Dude 09-09-2013 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Halo (Post 525907)
You're right. It's true. And I have more hope with recent picks.

I think we have definitely done better recently. Vaccaro is already balling and Hicks and Jordon keep getting better and better. I like what I see from Wilson and Junior as well.

alleycat_126 09-09-2013 10:07 PM

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This is about Lofton isn't it.... He is not suited to play where he currently is, but how can you move him to where he is designed to be if the guy who your hamstrung yourself to ( vilma) is never healthy!!!!

Jack Vegas 09-09-2013 11:25 PM

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Lofton is a good player. Yes, he is not perfect and he struggles in pass coverage sometimes. That does not mean you just throw him away. He has too many other excellent qualities. Ya'll act like we are talking about Orlando Ruff or Mark Simoneau or something. Lofton is miles better than any of those guys.

And are we really griping because one of our better defensive players got beat by Tony Gonzales? Guess what, a lot of good players have been beat by Gonzales.

Hell, Jimmy Graham had 100 something yards and 2 TDs against the 49ers in that playoff game. Were their fans whining about how awful Patrick Willis or Navarro Bowman were?

|Mitch| 09-09-2013 11:41 PM

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dizzle88 09-10-2013 11:54 AM

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Lets bench brees because he can't run the ball when the pocket breaks down whilst we are at it

Mr.Riaton 09-10-2013 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 526141)
Lets bench brees because he can't run the ball when the pocket breaks down whilst we are at it

exactly...while we're at it,Graham would have benched for his lacking in run blocking. everybody has weaknesses,a good coach will use their strenths.mabie Ryan willcome up with something to cover Loftons a**on third down passing situations.

dueceloose 09-10-2013 12:21 PM

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If we keep getting pressure on the qb like we did this game and actually get the holding calls lofton won't look so bad lol

rezburna 09-10-2013 12:26 PM

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He's a linebacker. They don't particularly specialize in one on one coverage. They usually get a small little zone to handle. You can't zone the whole field by yourself.

Jack Vegas 09-10-2013 03:30 PM

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Don't know if anybody noticed but I saw Herring out there a few times on nickel downs. He had one pass breakup and otherwise didn't raise the mention of the announcers, which says to me he must have been doing a pretty good job.

Plus they were only 3/11 on third down....

|Mitch| 09-10-2013 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Vegas (Post 526203)
Plus they were only 3/11 on third down....

A lot of those 3rd downs were 3rd and long thanks to the D-Line pressure :bng:

Mr.Riaton 09-10-2013 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 526158)
He's a linebacker. They don't particularly specialize in one on one coverage. They usually get a small little zone to handle. You can't zone the whole field by yourself.

Unless that linebacker happens to be Chuck Norris!

Luda34 09-10-2013 05:52 PM

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I'm sorry to start a argument about Lofton I think he's a hell of a player. I just don't understand why he's in the game between the 5 yard line and the goal line.

TheOak 09-10-2013 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Luda34 (Post 526241)
I'm sorry to start a argument about Lofton I think he's a hell of a player. I just don't understand why he's in the game between the 5 yard line and the goal line.

Stop the run

homerj07 09-11-2013 05:00 PM

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Lofton may not be a 3 down back. But he is a fantastic 2 down back.


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