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Boutte 09-15-2013 08:01 PM

Ingram- What do we do with him?
 
Somebody had to do it. Discuss.

Halo 09-15-2013 08:02 PM

Re: Ingram- What do we do with him?
 
Trade? Who would want him?
Fumble-itis, legs can't power thru line or runs.
He just doesn't look like NFL material and hasn't done anything to impress me as a Saint.

Sorry I'm so negative but I've given up on the kid.

Srgt. Hulka 09-15-2013 08:02 PM

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Let him pass out Gatorade.

arsaint 09-15-2013 08:03 PM

Re: Ingram- What do we do with him?
 
Like I said in chat - a life-sized Kate Upton poster and a box of Cheese Its for him

onebyone 09-15-2013 08:03 PM

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I do not care what we do with him, as long as it doesn't involve playing him in actual games.

jeanpierre 09-15-2013 08:04 PM

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After today, you've got to sit on him until some value comes back...

arsaint 09-15-2013 08:04 PM

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Maybe feed it to him in games where we have a 14 point lead and 4 minutes to go.

Let him do his 2 yards and a cloud of dust (on good runs) routine then...

ChrisXVI 09-15-2013 08:05 PM

Re: Ingram- What do we do with him?
 
There are no more excuses, no more explanations... He's terrible. Bench his ass and let Cadet/Robinson take his place.

TheOak 09-15-2013 08:05 PM

Re: Ingram- What do we do with him?
 
Right now.... He needs to sit a bit... Not because of his lack of production, but because he is so desperate and trying to force it to happen he is ignoring ball security.. He had the fumble in preseason game 4 and two tonight that were blown dead but the ball still came out.


If we have to play him..... Nope, nevermind.



To those who wanted to wait to trade him, we are getting very close to the point where changes from "it could be Ingram" to "It is Ingram"... Diminished value.

arsaint 09-15-2013 08:06 PM

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He needs to sit next week - as in INACTIVE - and K Rob needs his slot on the active roster.

Danno 09-15-2013 08:07 PM

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You keep working with him. PT and Sproles won't last 10 weeks by themselves.

arsaint 09-15-2013 08:08 PM

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I'm not seeing much to work with at the moment

Cadet and/or K Rob can have his carries

dizzle88 09-15-2013 08:10 PM

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We should have kept joique bell, PT and sproles

Bell is doing good in detroit

ChrisXVI 09-15-2013 08:13 PM

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Loomis made a horrible decision trading back into the first round to draft him. Of course hindsight is always 20/20 but it will go down as a huge draft blunder. Nobody's perfect and Loomis is no exception.

Barry from MS 09-15-2013 08:15 PM

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Well, at least we know what we can get from him. 8 for 20 yards or 9 for 11 yards. Maybe a fumble or 2. Short yardage failures.

Ingram just can't lower his pad level down before contact. And even if he DOES actually manage to get north-and-south, he can't get his pad level low at contact. This is BAD for a "short yardage" back. You wonder why he falls more often than not on first contact? This is the reason. PT and Sproles can get the pad level low at contact, which is why they are typically falling forward after contact and are able to drive.

His vision is pretty sad, too. Keep feeding him until he figures this out? Well, Payton is a gambler, but the offense will struggle if/until he figures this out.

Boutte 09-15-2013 08:19 PM

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His vision is bad because his head is down and he's looking at the ground. Watch that last try from the one yard line. Might as well close his eyes.

saintsfan1976 09-15-2013 08:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 528020)
You keep working with him. PT and Sproles won't last 10 weeks by themselves.

We have two other RBs that can play at least as poorly as Ingram can. Pretty soon, he'll cost us a win.

nola_swammi 09-15-2013 08:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 528020)
You keep working with him. PT and Sproles won't last 10 weeks by themselves.

And then you woke up

saintsfan1976 09-15-2013 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 528051)
And then you woke up

Are you in middle school? lol

westbankdaze 09-15-2013 08:26 PM

Re: Ingram- What do we do with him?
 
At this point I am full on board with putting Cadet or Robinson in the game.


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nola_swammi 09-15-2013 08:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 528055)
Are you in middle school? lol

No I am at home, thinking how could you defend having Ingram

saintsfan1976 09-15-2013 08:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 528058)
No I am at home, thinking how could you defend having Ingram

Check your eyes. Wasn't me.

Rugby Saint II 09-15-2013 08:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by westbankdaze (Post 528057)
At this point I am full on board with putting Cadet or Robinson in the game.


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Robinsons running style fits nicely with this team. Bring him in and let him run.

foreverfan 09-15-2013 08:35 PM

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Boutte 09-15-2013 08:36 PM

Re: Ingram- What do we do with him?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by westbankdaze (Post 528057)
At this point I am full on board with putting Cadet or Robinson in the game.


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Or PT. How many plays did he see today? Not nearly as much either Ingram or Sproles. What's the deal with that?

westbankdaze 09-15-2013 08:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Boutte (Post 528071)
Or PT. How many plays did he see today? Not nearly as much either Ingram or Sproles. What's the deal with that?

I'm good too if we just give PT more carries. Can PT play that many snaps in a game?


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Barry from MS 09-15-2013 08:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Boutte (Post 528071)
Or PT. How many plays did he see today? Not nearly as much either Ingram or Sproles. What's the deal with that?

I think they're saving him, honestly. We'll see more of him later, I'm bettin'. It's almost like Payton is toying with ALL of our emotions with the running game.

foreverfan 09-15-2013 08:46 PM

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Ingram had no business playing in the 1/2 half.

pherein 09-15-2013 08:49 PM

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Hes wasting possessions and important 3rd's or 4ths. 9 downs wasted vs atlanta, 8 vs bucs. He is stopping our offence, its that simple. He was stood up by a LB and 2x missed cutting to outside. Ingram has no sight.

WillMacKenzie 09-15-2013 09:00 PM

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can he play defense? Our injuries have my hand dangerously close to the panic button

Mr.Riaton 09-15-2013 09:00 PM

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Ingram is not that bad. His goal line fumble run was as pathetic as it gets,but our o line.....now thats on a major decline. Ingram looked alot better when we had a stout o line.

papz 09-15-2013 09:03 PM

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I don't have anything nice to say so I'm not going to say a thing.

pumpkindriver 09-15-2013 09:21 PM

Re: Ingram- What do we do with him?
 
Time to pull the plug on the Mark Ingram experiment. I really hoped he would succeed, kept hoping he'd get better. He just hasn't. He doesn't break tackles and goes down easily. As great as Loomis and co. are at finding talent, they whiffed on this one. Maybe give Cadet some work and muddle thru this as best as we can. Not much we can do about it until next year.

Marlboro Man 09-15-2013 09:22 PM

Re: Ingram- What do we do with him?
 
Water boy.

The Dude 09-15-2013 09:26 PM

Re: Ingram- What do we do with him?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton (Post 528096)
Ingram is not that bad. His goal line fumble run was as pathetic as it gets,but our o line.....now thats on a major decline. Ingram looked alot better when we had a stout o line.

Bull****. Thomas and Sproles can get it done he can't, plain and simple. Yes the Oline has to help, but he has got to win his one on ones and hes not getting it done. A good back is supposed to push the pile and make plays when plays arent there. That is his job and he is not doing it. Some of you guys act like the line is supposed to part like the Red Sea and let him run through it. It doesnt work that way, he has to do his part too. This dude is a ****ing bust here. You can say its the lines faullt all you want but I dont give a **** if hes the best RB to ever play the game, if hes not getting it done here then why should he be here. Why people still defend this guy is beyond me.

pherein 09-15-2013 09:34 PM

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if you dont beat 1 guy your not a RB, thats the simple rule. Forget OL. Anyone can run if the OL opens up a huge hole. An RB beats the 1st guy thats simple or they are not a RB. Ingram is failing this simple rule.

The Dude 09-15-2013 09:36 PM

Re: Ingram- What do we do with him?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pherein (Post 528136)
if you dont beat 1 guy your not a RB, that simple. Forget OL. Anyone can run if the OL opens up a huge hole. An RB beats the 1st guy thats simple or they are not a RB. Ingram is failing this simple rule.

Ding ding ding

foreverfan 09-15-2013 09:39 PM

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foreverfan 09-15-2013 09:44 PM

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saintfan 09-15-2013 10:01 PM

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