Garrett Hartley

exile · 11-03-2013, 07:08 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

made a 55 and a 43. Ill take it. He is not the reason why we lost. The o-line and the lack of a running game. If the Saints want to go far into the playoffs they better find people that can block and feed PT the ball. Drew threw the ball 51 times.

Great. When does he start for your team? The Saints need a real place kicker.

Danno · 11-03-2013, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

made a 55 and a 43. Ill take it. He is not the reason why we lost. The o-line and the lack of a running game. If the Saints want to go far into the playoffs they better find people that can block and feed PT the ball. Drew threw the ball 51 times.

a 66% kicker would rate dead last in the NFL.

AlaskaSaints · 11-03-2013, 08:01 PM

That would have been a crucial 3 points, early today. This man basically cannot be counted upon.

It's sad.

Alaska

SaintsBro · 11-03-2013, 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

sHartley has seen his last season as a Saint. I can see them bringing in another kicker soon, and replacing him next year.

The Mexican dude we had in camp has to better than Suckalicious.

The problem behind this, is that we had to cut someone and activate Ryan Griffin from the practice squad to keep the Rams from getting him. Which takes up a roster spot, that we would normally be able to use on carrying a third temporary kicker, which is exactly what they've done in the past, when Harley has his emo hissy fits or hits slumps, they carry three ridiculous kickers on the roster with Hartley inactive for a spell. If they cut Hartley right now, he's gone to another team instantly, and won't come back, which would really suck if the new guy doesn't work out either. We could theoretically end up paying Hartley to kick against us, for another team, if we cut him and still owe him his salary. If we had that free roster spot and Griffin on the PS, I have no doubt we would be carrying a second place kicker from somewhere for a game or two or three. It's messed up all around.

dizzle88 · 11-04-2013, 03:55 AM

If hartley is released, no doubt he will go on to be the NFL scoring leader in FG's

thats just what happens to people that leave our team

jeanpierre · 11-04-2013, 07:00 AM

It's not just the 3pts NOT on the scoreboard, it's the deflation to the team's momentum in a game...

He's just not focused...

W. Kovacs · 11-04-2013, 07:44 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

It's not just the 3pts NOT on the scoreboard, it's the deflation to the team's momentum in a game...

He's just not focused...

Exactly. Also, at the end of the game if we're down by 3 instead of 6, the whole approach to the 2-minute drill changes. Yeah, you still need a TD to win but have the option of a FG to send it to OT.

He didn't cost us the game on his own but he definitely contributed.

QBREES9 · 11-04-2013, 07:46 AM

It might be time. Who is out their better then him.

voodooido · 11-04-2013, 08:11 AM

Originally Posted by QBREES9

It might be time. Who is out their better then him.

No one. If there was then SP would have him.

skymike · 11-04-2013, 08:20 AM

Hartley was the only non-problem we had yesterday.

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11-03-2013, 07:15 PM	#122
Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Re: Garrett Hartley Originally Posted by voodooido made a 55 and a 43. Ill take it. He is not the reason why we lost. The o-line and the lack of a running game. If the Saints want to go far into the playoffs they better find people that can block and feed PT the ball. Drew threw the ball 51 times. a 66% kicker would rate dead last in the NFL.

11-03-2013, 08:01 PM	#123
AlaskaSaints 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 2,484 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Garrett Hartley That would have been a crucial 3 points, early today. This man basically cannot be counted upon. It's sad. Alaska

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SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Garrett Hartley Originally Posted by Danno sHartley has seen his last season as a Saint. I can see them bringing in another kicker soon, and replacing him next year. The Mexican dude we had in camp has to better than Suckalicious. The problem behind this, is that we had to cut someone and activate Ryan Griffin from the practice squad to keep the Rams from getting him. Which takes up a roster spot, that we would normally be able to use on carrying a third temporary kicker, which is exactly what they've done in the past, when Harley has his emo hissy fits or hits slumps, they carry three ridiculous kickers on the roster with Hartley inactive for a spell. If they cut Hartley right now, he's gone to another team instantly, and won't come back, which would really suck if the new guy doesn't work out either. We could theoretically end up paying Hartley to kick against us, for another team, if we cut him and still owe him his salary. If we had that free roster spot and Griffin on the PS, I have no doubt we would be carrying a second place kicker from somewhere for a game or two or three. It's messed up all around.

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 10,838	Re: Garrett Hartley If hartley is released, no doubt he will go on to be the NFL scoring leader in FG's thats just what happens to people that leave our team

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