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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Danno The Mexican dude we had in camp has to be better than Suckalicious. That statement cracks me up......

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Old 11-04-2013, 11:06 AM   #131
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The Mexican dude we had in camp has to be better than Suckalicious.
That statement cracks me up...
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Old 11-04-2013, 12:37 PM   #132
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made a 55 and a 43. Ill take it. He is not the reason why we lost. The o-line and the lack of a running game. If the Saints want to go far into the playoffs they better find people that can block and feed PT the ball. Drew threw the ball 51 times.
Same o-line and lack of running game has been worth 6 wins so far.

A kicker missing a FG on the opening drive has no effect on morale?


Part of Hartleys issue is that he kicks better with pressure, the situational stats prove that. Problem is that when he misses one on an opening drive and we find our self down by 9 in the bottom of the 4th we have to score on two possessions rather than a TD on one. IF we were down by 6 in the bottom of the 4th it would have been different play calling and we would have gone for it on 4th.
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Originally Posted by voodooido View Post
made a 55 and a 43. Ill take it. He is not the reason why we lost. The o-line and the lack of a running game. If the Saints want to go far into the playoffs they better find people that can block and feed PT the ball. Drew threw the ball 51 times.
Yes he did. Did you notice that the ST coach had the punting team ready to go punt, then Payton had Hartley go out and kick the 55 yarder? This is just my opinion, and I don't have any proof of this, but I think that 55 yarder was Hartley's career. I think Coach sent him out to sink or swim. He misses it, we never see Hartley again. He makes it, he plays again next week. Lucky for him, he made it. And he made the 43 yarder, both of them right down the middle. We'll see Hartley again next week, thanks to that 55 yarder.

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Old 11-04-2013, 01:19 PM   #134
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Yes he did. Did you notice that the ST coach had the punting team ready to go punt, then Payton had Hartley go out and kick the 55 yarder? This is just my opinion, and I don't have any proof of this, but I think that 55 yarder was Hartley's career. I think Coach sent him out to sink or swim. He misses it, we never see Hartley again. He makes it, he plays again next week. Lucky for him, he made it. And he made the 43 yarder, both of them right down the middle. We'll see Hartley again next week, thanks to that 55 yarder.

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I am sure this will enrage and infuriate many people here, but I think it showed confidence, that Payton believed in Hartley enough to yank the punt team and put him out there to try a career long. After he missed the early one, Hartley was right over there on the sideline, talking quietly to Payton about it....Payton didn't "ice face" him or go into IGNORE MODE, like he does when other minor players make mistakes or wear the wrong cleats....Payton talked it out with him....unfortunately for those who dislike Emo Kid Hartley, that type of body language and attention from a coach is NOT how you treat a kicker that you're going to cut on Monday.
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Old 11-04-2013, 01:30 PM   #135
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I am sure this will enrage and infuriate many people here, but I think it showed confidence, that Payton believed in Hartley enough to yank the punt team and put him out there to try a career long. After he missed the early one, Hartley was right over there on the sideline, talking quietly to Payton about it....Payton didn't "ice face" him or go into IGNORE MODE, like he does when other minor players make mistakes or wear the wrong cleats....Payton talked it out with him....unfortunately for those who dislike Emo Kid Hartley, that type of body language and attention from a coach is NOT how you treat a kicker that you're going to cut on Monday.
That doesn't infuriate me. I personally gave up on the dude in 2011 after a shankfest, and I've said my peace about that. That said, not going to harp on him, and as a Saints fan, I hope the dude makes every kick he attempts and pray he jumps from a mid 60% kicker to 85% plus!

Like Ingram, I wish the kid just rack up the points and scapegoating him doesn't do jack if the team still employs him. If SP's gesture gives him confidence, AWESOME! Just MAKE THE KICKS!

We had problems yesterday and if Hartley made the early FG, the game approach and momentum would have been different. BUT from what I saw, we had chances to win that game besides Hartley's miss. The reasons we failed to capitalize on those chances concerns me more than a missed FG at this point.

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That doesn't infuriate me. I personally gave up on the dude in 2011 after a shankfest, and I've said my peace about that. That said, not going to harp on him, and as a Saints fan, I hope the dude makes every kick he attempts and pray he jumps from a mid 60% kicker to 85% plus!

Like Ingram, I wish the kid just rack up the points and scapegoating him doesn't do jack if the team still employs him. If SP's gesture gives him confidence, AWESOME! Just MAKE THE KICKS!

We had problems yesterday and if Hartley made the early FG, the game approach and momentum would have been different. BUT from what I saw, we had chances to win that game besides Hartley's miss. The reasons we failed to capitalize on those chances concerns me more than a missed FG at this point.
Couldnt agree more. Still dont like the dude but you cannot blame the entire outcome of the game on him when everyone was playing just as bad as he was.
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Well he is the Kicker no matter what occurs. Just deal with it!
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Old 11-05-2013, 06:44 AM   #138
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8th in FG made this year. As for the rest he is middle of the pack.
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Old 11-05-2013, 09:26 AM   #139
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Wait. We were up in the JETS game by what, 14-3.

Is that right? I think it was 14-3.

We lose the game 26-20 and we want to blame the idiot kicker?

Well, idiot is right, but that adjective is in front of the wrong noun...
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The Texans are holding kicker tryouts today.
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