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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Come on gents.. You are shooting the messenger and not the sender. What is going on on the field is driven by the Organizations culture and it is based on risk/reward. Is it coincidence that certain teams like the Raiders ...

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Old 09-17-2013, 08:34 AM   #21
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Re: Egregious Personal Fouls

Come on gents.. You are shooting the messenger and not the sender.

What is going on on the field is driven by the Organizations culture and it is based on risk/reward.

Is it coincidence that certain teams like the Raiders were home to some of the dirtiest players in football? No sir. That was driven by Al Davis.

Is it coincidence that the Steelers were fined 13 times for $182,000 in 2011?

Is it coincidence that the Ravens were the heaviest fined team in 2012 with $237,875 with $126,000 of that going to Ed Reed?

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The risk/reward

Risk ~ Division Game Sunday Night, risk losing Goldsen for a game against the Patriots a non division, non conference game.

Reward ~ Take out Brees, Graham, Sproles... If you knock any one of those players out of that game and we lose.

If I were the sort of Coach that played that way that is a risk I would take every day for that reward.

As far as for fining all the players, you cant by CBA. On placing a stigma on the offending player.. I have yet to see he fans, team, or anyone turn on Suh, Harrison..

Suspending players for a few games has yet to deter anything what so ever... Since 1 Jan 2013 23 NFL players have been suspended for violations of the leagues substance abuse policy... Are suspensions working? NOPE. There is a depth chart for that...

Will the word Bounty ever be murmured in a Saints locker room again? Nope... Because the organization and the culture were hit. And if there were never a Bounty program to start with, you can bet there will never be one started.

I am fully appreciate that not many see my point of view. There is overwhelming evidence to show that fines and suspensions and "player punishment" do not work... They keep on keeping on. At some point the risk has to become greater than the reward.

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Old 09-17-2013, 08:49 AM   #22
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Can't wait for the Bucs-Lions game Thanksgiving weekend. It's gonna be a flag-fest!!
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Old 09-17-2013, 08:53 AM   #23
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Should probably just throw Suh and Goldsen some meat cleavers and let em start hacking after the coin flip.
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Old 09-17-2013, 08:54 AM   #24
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I was thinking the same thing after that hit on graham. I like the idea that if a team gets a certain number of personal fouls they start losing time outs. If one player continues to do it they get ejected in addition.
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Old 09-17-2013, 10:08 AM   #25
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Ejection from that actual game is possible like college... immediate impact. However there are some that are not called penalties on the field but fined later...


Anyway since I can not get people to understand my point I will just play hardball.

We sit here week in, and week out, and read about players that have their season or careers ended... voicing "I would never want to see another player hurt"!

But cheer, condone, and try to protect the very actions that cause some of those very tragedies.

Hypocrisy?
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Originally Posted by metrymudbug View Post
Can't wait for the Bucs-Lions game Thanksgiving weekend. It's gonna be a flag-fest!!
Suh is always in rare form on Thanksgiving Day ... it's almost a given he's gonna' do something stupid in this game every year ... on national TV, in front of the home crowd, . I don't know what it is, but it sure seems he don't like playing/is in a bad mood on Turkey Day, .
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Suh is always in rare form on Thanksgiving Day ... it's almost a given he's gonna' do something stupid in this game every year ... on national TV, in front of the home crowd, . I don't know what it is, but it sure seems he don't like playing/is in a bad mood on Turkey Day, .
I thought it was obvious... Look at Suh... Does he look like someone that wants to work during lunch on the biggest feast day of the year?

This year he gets some Aaron Rodgers.
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Old 09-17-2013, 06:40 PM   #28
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"Egregious Personal Fouls" didn't he play RB for the Patriots?
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Old 09-17-2013, 06:43 PM   #29
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Originally Posted by SloMotion View Post
Suh is always in rare form on Thanksgiving Day ... it's almost a given he's gonna' do something stupid in this game every year ... on national TV, in front of the home crowd, . I don't know what it is, but it sure seems he don't like playing/is in a bad mood on Turkey Day, .
He don't like no stinkin' Turkey.
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Fine the team and player. Add in suspensions as well.
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